Not too controversial. Say what you will about TYT, but this is good advice. Kids need to understand the dangers of a digital society that archives everything. This applies to Facebook as well, kids.

>> ^KnivesOut:
Not too controversial. Say what you will about TYT, but this is good advice. Kids need to understand the dangers of a digital society that archives everything. This applies to Facebook as well, kids.


Sage advice. Whenever I'm going to post on FB, I as myself, "Could this bite me in the ass later on?" It's a pretty simple test, but it's saved me from posting things I know I shouldn't.

Haven't watched the video [I'm at school], but I think I read this article a few days ago. I'm completely baffled as to how a 13 year-old would think it acceptable to send nude photos to anyone. I think this is a problem of society and the media more than anything else. [And the parents contribute largely, too. I certainly didn't have picture messaging at 13, or even a cell phone. There's no reason for it.]

kids have always got naked in front of eachother , the technoligy just alows for it to be sent around , in the past it would have been " did you hear that jo showed her fanny to bob behind the bike shed" and then everyone would take the piss out of them , the difference with an image is its just a recording of the same event.

in the end the only bad thing that happened was that the kid killed themselves , everything else is the sort of thing that when you get to 20 you think was funny and stupid.


like asloot of things its an inducatoinal issue

1) kids need to know how things can back fire with uploading sharing photose
2) kids need to know that it dosent matter so much whatever happend its not worth killing yourself over
3) school should educate kids on sex properly and sexual behavoir and how that could go wrong or things that are safer to do.

Drama, non-news.

What stuns me is that of all that entire school there wasn't one single kid with enough character to tell her it's no big deal and to stand up for her? Not one?? His advice starting at 6:30 would have saved her life, yet not one person involved, (parents, kids or faculty), could give it?? Cowardice all around.

I sext messages and images of myself in the lounge all the time... is that wrong? There are archives!? *eek*

The saddest thing about this trend is that these girls are peer pressured into sexting, and then punished by both their peers and the school system when they give in to the pressure. This related story (about another girl) is the saddest thing I've read today:

http://sylviasproblem.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/what-happened-to-hope-witsell/

I think that the "skank" tag is a bit cruel.

I don't really see sexting as a problem as much as I see it as an example of how fucked up our culture is.

We put way too much emphasis on these things, and as a culture we in America totally blow them out of proportion.

This has nothing to do with sexting. This is all about one poor little emo goth girl who was too depressed to deal with the "stresses" of life. (As if she knew anything about real stress.) She probably just wanted attention; she didn't REALLY want to die. I think she probably realized that, but by then, it was too late.

However, the parents are dumbasses. Sue yourselves, dipshits. Not the school. YOU fucked your kid up, NOT the school. Fuck you for being greedy assholes. Maybe you should take a look at yourselves and your parenting skills. Maybe you should have paid more attention to your daughter, and made her feel more wanted and appreciated. Maybe you could have taught her a little more about how to deal with things and what it means to be loved. Don't blame the boy, don't blame the school, don't blame your daughter, BLAME YOURSELVES.

People piss me off. Please stop motherfucking breeding.

>> ^LittleRed:
... I'm completely baffled as to how a 13 year-old would think it acceptable to send nude photos to anyone. I think this is a problem of society and the media more than anything else. [And the parents contribute largely, too. I certainly didn't have picture messaging at 13, or even a cell phone. There's no reason for it.]
Kids experiment. Kids experiment a lot. Not only do they do things, they do stupid things. The stupider, the higher the risk they're going to do it. A lot of countries have experimentation exemptions for kids. That's the reality. Mine does, the US? Yours is just a messed up pile of crap.


The problem is between law, society, individuals and technology. Most of this stuff is still catching up, we've had an amazing technological leap in the last 15 years. Every kid has a cellphone now(hell I still don't have one). They use it for socializing they also use it--as we're seeing experimentation because they're able to. The same will happen with any technology, yes things happen. You won't stop kids, you can tell kids "don't do it" they'll do it anyway. Do you really think they care? No. Did you ever listen to a lot of what your parents said. Probably not.

Sucks that she killed herself. More important than not sexting is don't date worthless fucking douchebags that would do this sort of thing.

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This girl was 18.

>> ^LittleRed:
I'm completely baffled as to how a 13 year-old would think it acceptable to send nude photos to anyone.

>> ^LittleRed:
I certainly didn't have picture messaging at 13, or even a cell phone.
To be fair, it probably wasn't 2009 when you were 13, either.

Double standard-riffic! Not too controversial for the sift, and it's a good find, but I'm downvoting anyways because Cenk Uygur's message is so completely disgusting. I've never seen Ana Kasparian so angry before; it looked like she wanted to reach across the desk and just rip Cenk a new one, and I hardly blame her.

The problem here is that Jessica Logan committed suicide that we have more or less collectively decided was preventable, and Cenk not only states that there should be no repercussions, but that the entire episode is Jessica's fault and her fault alone. He takes the attitude that kids will be kids, the administrators were idiots, the parents were clueless, but they were all just playing the parts expected of them so the sexting and the suicide are solely on the head of Jessica. Never mind that kids are remarkably cruel and when you are forced to go to school for eight hours every day, there's no reprise and no recourse from being endlessly degraded. Never mind that when you're contemplating suicide, you're not in a proper state of mind and someone else needs to step in and make some decisions for you.

I agree that suing is not the answer, but saying "just let it go" is insensitive, despicable, and dangerous. Punishments must be handed down to demonstrate that the behavior of those around her is completely unacceptable. The boy in question needs a suspension at minimum, and anyone identified as making the situation substantially worse should suffer the same punishment. The school administrators... I'm sorry, but their careers need to end for a little while. If one of your students died a preventable death under your watch solely because of actions taken at your school, you are responsible and should be fired. If there are no punishments, then our society is saying "this is okay after all."

>> ^xxovercastxx:
This girl was 18.
>> ^LittleRed:
I'm completely baffled as to how a 13 year-old would think it acceptable to send nude photos to anyone.


Jessica Logan was 18, and she's the girl this story is referring to. LittleRed is likely thinking of Hope Witsell, who committed suicide over sexting in September of this year. Hope was 13 years old.

>> ^ReverendTed:
>> ^LittleRed:
I certainly didn't have picture messaging at 13, or even a cell phone.
To be fair, it probably wasn't 2009 when you were 13, either.


Ooo, burn!

Hmm, was she underage?

EDIT: NVM, i read the comments, you can delete this now.

>> ^LittleRed:
I'm completely baffled as to how a 13 year-old would think it acceptable to send nude photos to anyone.

Get with the program, daddio.

They're called hormones, and just because you haven't seen yours lying around in a few years, doesn't mean they don't exist in abundance in thirteen year olds.

Americans cannot think more than 1 second into the future.

we are animals
when we hit our teens we are flooded with hormones that tell us

REPRODUCE NOW.

It is a shame she committed suicide.
Truly it always a shame but it has always happened.

Ugh. People almost never kill themselves as a direct result of depression, we just fail to understand their state of mind and start applying labels. When depression is involved, the act of suicide is usually impulsive. I'm not even depressed, and I quite often have the unexplainable impulse to jump when I am in a high place (this is the root of my fear of heights, really), or to jump in front of an oncoming train or bus. I think most people have probably experienced this impulse a few times and it tends to scare the shit out of you because there's no good reason for it.

Most of the time suicidal people think it through to ensure their success, and you don't get to that state of mind from any place we can explain away as depression or anything else. For those people, they've thought it out and somehow it's the right thing to do. They don't have to be depressed (they can be of course), they might be old, sick, or bored with life and unable to find an answer to making the routine day-to-day more enjoyable. I didn't read the story, but it sounds a lot like this girl was tired of the abuse and impulsively took her own life. (That seems to speak to frustration more than depression.) People who do that usually find themselves regretting their behavior in the final moments, and you can hear that a lot from them because a lot of them survive due to impulsive suicide leaving a lot of room for error.

You're right at least in that she probably didn't really want to die, and those final few seconds must have been utter torture as she found herself in a helpless situation.

In my mind, the real problem here is that kids are too young to fully appreciate mortality or even life. They don't bother to think about what their life might be like in 20 years usually, and don't appreciate the full value of the things they will accomplish before their eventual death. But it also doesn't help that kids can also be massive pricks, and culture has saddled young girls with giant piles of double-standards.