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rottenseedsays...*requeue
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dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
This is brilliant. I had to watch it twice.
8266says...I fail to see why this could be interpretted as funny and why anyone would upvote this. Its a fact that if we didnt go over there liberate Europe TWICE they would be either speaking German or in an oven of some kind. That cost alot of lives. Funny how this prick thinks its funny. Somebody down vote this.
Thylansays...Taking pride in the good accomplishments of your country in History, is obviously not the same as taking personal credit for things occurring before your birth.
SaNdMaNsays...DrPawn, you're slow.
8266says...Am not. I didnt agree with his point.
dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
DrPawn - when you say "Its a fact that if we didnt go over there liberate Europe " you are making the point of the video.
If you said "It's a fact that if our forefathers" ...
rottenseedsays...Wow...I didn't know it was possible to miss the point that badly, DrPawn. This guy isn't crapping on the idea that we helped countries that needed us, he's taking the credit out of the hands of those that don't deserve it...people such as you and I. But maybe you need to bask in the light of others' achievements, who knows...
fleetzesays...That cost a lot of lives, says DrPawn. Wow. I mean wow.
Why don't you freaking look up the WWI casualties sometime. I'll give you one number, almost 1.5 million french soldiers. That's 1.5 million french pussies I guess? What an ignorant twit.
xxovercastxxsays...If you want to play the taking credit game, let me remind you that France played an important role in a little scuffle we call the American Revolution. The US might not exist without France.
rottenseedsays...good point xxovercastxx! And I hear them braggin about that ALLLLL the time! haha
Wingoguysays...I think the point some of you (and Doug Stanhope) may be missing is taking personal ownership in your homeland's legacy may be a good thing. Yes, of course, you may sound like a douche when you go spouting your "America is #1!!" to everyone when you have taken no part of it. Some of us, however, still serve our country through civic and government service, and much can be gained from taking pride, not credit, in the accomplishments of your predecessors.
Germany still takes WWII personally, as they have criminalized denying the holocaust and taken large steps to ensure they never fall under the rule of a militant dictator. Kudos for them for not saying, "Oh, those Nazi's weren't us, that was our grandparents. It's not our fault, so we don't have to care about it"
8266says..."That's 1.5 million french pussies I guess?"
Did I say that??? or did I downplay the French sacrafices?
These are fleetzes words not mine. Then after he puts these words in my mouth fleetze calls me a twit and got two upvotes for it...
What I said was "it cost alot of lives". I was talking about American lives which is what fleeze picked up on apparently.
But that exchange really proves my point. This whole subject is not one that should be joked about. Which is exactly the point I did NOT miss, when I did not upvote this. Everyone else is upvoting this becuase they think its funny or clever or insightfull. I think its disrespectful to the American sacrifcies in the WWs. But I see American bashing is in full swing on these boards. Some subjects no matter how they are approached are just are not funny.
8471says...When people spout that bit about America saving the French, they conveniently forget that "we" were just returning the favor. Without the help of the French in the Revolutionary War, we would all be speaking, well, English...but with a funny accent.
Or is there some arbitrary statute of limitations for saving someone's butt?
gwiz665says...If I had the power of the star, I would downvote this. His point is valid, but it's just not funny. It hurts to see Bill Hicks mentioned in reference to this.
This is just another spin off the old "when team X wins, it's MY team.. we won! when it loses - THEY lost".
I can hardly watch him without thinking of the horrible "second editon" of the Man Show, which failed so hard (for me anyway).
dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
I hope someday we get beyond nationalism - which to me is just tribalism on a larger scale - brought about by our monkey pack loving primate brains.
We're all human beings and citizens of the earth - the French are not them and we are not we.
I don't know if we'll ever manage to overcome our biology though . Transhumanism anyone?
dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
Although, if I may completely contradict myself and derail this thread - supposedly 65% of France has the mind-altering parasite toxoplasmosis from eating steak tartar, while in the US it's only 30-35%. So maybe they are them
jwraysays...Even Hitler can be joked about with great success. Watch more Monty Python.
rottenseedsays...gwiz665, this clip may not be the best one from Doug's set that is reminiscent of the social satire Bill Hicks was so great at. I do find this bit funny, as I can relate to the things he says, but whatever that's all relative. I really do recommend looking into more of his work to get a full scope of his ideals and talent (despite the travesty that was "The Man Show"). As I respect Bill Hicks' work, I would never reference him in vain. Then again, different comics affect you different ways, so who knows.
gwiz665says...It may be that my sense of humor, concerning Stanhope, has been tarnished by the man show, but I'm not keen on his delivery. Oh well, different tastes, I suppose.
I have no problem with the subject of the bit though. In my opinion there are very few things that cannot be joked about.
This one is funnier (http://www.videosift.com/video/Doug-Stanhope-Why-I-dont-Believe), but I'm still not aboard on the delivery.
MINKsays...i think his point is maybe more subtle... he is saying you don't have a right to bask in the glory of previous generations who were born on the same patch of land as you... UNLESS... you do something yourself to carry on the legacy.
if you just eat burgers and say "usa is number one because of stuff that happened 60 years ago that i saw on the history channel" then you are out of line, even disrespectful to previous generations.
budzossays...Yeah what Dr. Pawn is so moronically missing here is that Stanhope is ENCOURAGING respect for the previous generation in what he says. Thanks for revealing yourself as a thickhead, Pawn. Now I will know to ignore pretty much all your opinions.
rottenseedsays...*promote
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Ryjkyjsays...Hilarious video. Hilarious discussion.
my15minutessays...i'd also like to point out that, besides being a standup comic, he has run for office, as a Libertarian.
he's a funny guy, but he also takes his *politics pretty seriously.
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blankfistsays...Let's *promote this piece of comedy gold back to the front page. Not only is Doug Stanhope hilarious, he's also a Libertarian. He's got my upvote anytime!
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dystopianfuturetodaysays...This is great.
gwiz665says...Here 8 months later I'm still not keen on his delivery. I get his point, got it earlier too, but I just get a bad vibe from him. Oh well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt (he's libertarian, I jive with that) and not downvote now that got the power of star-skull.
blankfistsays...*promote
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rottenseedsays...*promote
this used to be my highest ranked video
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jerrykusays...People like to take credit for their ancestor's "good" things, but refuse to take credit for their sins. For example, D-day... "my grandpa did that! Yeah! He stormed Normandy, sniped an MG-42 crew, and then liberated France. YEAH!!!"
Meanwhile... "Sure my great great grandpa had a few slaves... but that was a long time ago. I had nothing to do with that. Stop blaming me! Damn!!! Leave me alone!"
Either you take credit for all the good and bad things of your forefathers, or you take credit for none of it. I think the latter view is the better way to go.
RhesusMonksays...^This is why we need a *promote comments thingy.
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blankfistsays...*promote
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geo321says...*promote
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radxsays...*length=1:43
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bareboards2says...No wonder this is your highest ranking video, rotten! Dang! How many promotes on it?
Let's go for another round....
*promote
It is a great vid. And I'm not a fan of this guy, but for 90 seconds? What he says is important.
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