The Origin Of Starboard And Port

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'right, left, oar, ocean vessel, ship' to 'right, left, oar, ocean vessel, ship, etymology' - edited by xxovercastxx

xxovercastxxsays...

Sloppy in the sense that it means the same thing as 'oriented' but with extra letters, and those extra letters don't give it any extra aesthetic appeal, IMO.

It seems @artician may have been correct. This may be a non-word that saw such wide-spread use that it was legitimized, like irregardless.

FlowersInHisHairsaid:

"Sloppy"? How so? It's just a word. No need for the value judgement.

articiansays...

Not surprising that it's in the dictionary now. The reason it sticks out to me is because when I was in college and taking 3D digital art classes, it became a joke among my friends whenever an instructor would use the term "orientate" or "orientated". This was 18 years ago, so it saw plenty of use then, but at the time it was not in the dictionary, so it drove us nuts.
There were a lot of weird modes of speech from instructors then, like the ones that pronounced sphere as 'spear', or fillet as "fill-it", and biped as "bypt".
But really now, irregardless is in the dictionary too? What has the world come to!?

FlowersInHisHairsays...

Far from being a "non-word", orientate is common usage in British English. Orient/orientate is one of those words where users of each form tend to regard their own as correct, and grumble about users of the "incorrect" form, but like so many such terms, both are correct. Orientate has been in use since the mid-19th century, according to Etymology Online.

As for aesthetic appeal, that doesn't really have any bearing on whether or not something is a word. You may not like it, but that's just a question of taste and context. It only sounds clumsy to those who don't live in places where it's commonly used; I'd be pretty confident in saying that "I oriented myself" sounds just as odd to a BE speaker as "I orientated myself" does to an AE speaker.

xxovercastxxsaid:

Sloppy in the sense that it means the same thing as 'oriented' but with extra letters, and those extra letters don't give it any extra aesthetic appeal, IMO.

It seems @artician may have been correct. This may be a non-word that saw such wide-spread use that it was legitimized, like irregardless.

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