zionism,christian zionism,israel,palestine,christian fundamentalism What is Wrong with Christian Zionism: A Christian Critique

What is Wrong with Christian Zionism: A Christian Critique

posted by mattsy 5 months 3 weeks ago • 501 views

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Dr. Steven Sizer on the inherent contradictions and injustices within (American) Christian Zionism.

I realize that it is a Christian perspective on the matter - so the likelihood of it getting sifted may hover somewhere around nill - but I find his theologically-informed criticism to be rather poignant.

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Because Iranian TV is known for it's fair-minded and honest reporting on Israel, right?

The video's premise that Israel is everything that's wrong and evil in the world makes the *lies tag very appropriate. As much as I disagree with Hagee and his followers, Iran is the last place I'd go for an unbiased opinion.

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Oh woops, totally neglected the Iranian factor. For what it's worth, Dr. Sizer gave a talk at my relatively-conservative Christian university on a panel with relatively-conservative Theology professors. I entirely agree with you on the perceived lack of legitimacy on account of the domain name, but I feel that his critiques transcend that. And this is coming from a former stalwart Zionist.

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On the ridiculous nature of the "Christian Zionists" (http://www.videosift.com/video/Rapture-Ready-The-Christians-United-for-Israel-Tour) I can agree completely.

But this "interview" between two people reaffirming each other's points, with their premise that supporting Israel on any point makes one "unrighteous" made me downvote this video.

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I sincerely appreciate your sober and intelligent criticism (on a subject that is all too often tainted by ignorance and name-calling, just look at the comments sections on YouTube for any video relating to Israel/Palestine). I think I may have just viewed the video in a different light. I viewed it in terms of Christian theology and the questions of peace and justice, two characteristics I find to be implicitly lacking in American Christian Zionism.

I do find Hart to be quite propagandistic, but I still feel as though Dr. Sizer's critiques are sound, and important. After (very recently, as in the last half hour) reading about PressTV, I completely understand your doubts concerning partiality; but I still find the conversation to be revealing and interesting.

On a more personal note, I consider myself to be a supporter of the sovereignty of both Israelis and Palestinians (how bland and idealistic I know); I just feel that this video explores an interesting facet of Americans' attitudes towards the conflict.

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>> ^mattsy:
On a more personal note, I consider myself to be a supporter of the sovereignty of both Israelis and Palestinians

Believe me, so do I. I really hope Obama can force some sort of progress out of the useless status-quo we have at the moment of missile-tank-calm.

As an Israeli, it's hard for me to view these things as an American would, since I view them from the inside, as one of the opposing sides, and not as an external observer.

I have had several online debates degenerate into nothing more than simply arguing the same subject over and over again, and I try not to let Videosift become another one