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"In 1963 a group of scientists from Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine in Cleveland Ohio, led by Robert J. White, a neurosurgeon and a professor of neurological surgery who was inspired by the work of Vladimir Demikhov, performed a highly controversial operation to transplant the head of one monkey onto another’s body." -[wikip] Comments  who voted for this video schmawy
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Heaven forbid, can't let ethics get in the way of scientific progress.
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But like Snoozedoctor says, they're not color coded. It'd be like cutting through a T1 internet line x 1020 and trying to reconnect it with bulldozer. Or something.
There might be something to it.
I hope that didn't go over anyone's head.
If we had a few hundred people who were head transplants they would probably be making a major stink about the limits on stem cell research...maybe that's the slippery slope we are trying to avoid.
The critic in this video, Steven Rose, has been around a long time and he's consistently been on the wrong side of history. His efforts to shut down genetics and evolutionary psychology since the 80s have failed, and both the fields increasingly make valuable contributions to our world.
Dawkins and Edward O. Wilson (see the Ant Whisperer video) promoted an unsentimental view of biology and humankind and became some of the leading scientific figures of their generation, but Rose did he what could to stop that from happening. Science advances funeral by funeral.
When people will realize that we are just organic machines? Nothing special here please move on.
"thats like, your opinion.. man"
... Nothing special here please move on.
Please, be our guest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_AHPF7hnTM
^WARNING VIEWER DISCRESSION^
Dghandi has an interesting point though. Better to be a paraplegic and alive? Maybe, but it's the brain stem that runs the ticker, so all that would have to be connected. Maybe some day.
>> ^nickreal03:
When people will realize that we are just organic machines? Nothing special here please move on.
"thats like, your opinion.. man"
The dude abides.
We have the equivalents of grafted heads on non-functioning bodies already. That would be the C1-C2 spinal cord injuries that are ventilator dependent and completely paralyzed. I was attending an international critical care conference back a few decades ago, and we were discussing the ethics of taking a 22 year old man, a C2 quad injured in a motorcycle accident, off his ventilator to allow him to die. To compound the dilemma, the patient had requested no sedation be administered as he wanted to experience the sensation of dying. The U.S. physicians clearly stood out from the rest of the international community on the issue. Most of the U.S. docs said they would not remove an entirely conscious person from life support, that they would treat their depression and get them counseling, etc. etc. The European, Canadian, and Australians on the panel were of the strongest opinion that if they considered the patient to be of sound mind, they would grant their wish to preserve the right of self determination. Although, they said they would strongly encourage him to consider sedation for the event.
I, for one, am a strong advocate of a person's right for self-determination, as long as the patient isn't mentally ill. I think it's extremely arrogant to judge a person's quality of life and think that judgment should supersede the patient's own determination.
I would not want to continue living as an isolated brain. And I would greatly resent anyone trying to force me to do so.
I'm in agreement with chilaxe; Stephen Rose is a bum.
(and I think you mean self-termination, snoodoc)
Good point. I'm going out on a limb and saying a severed spinal cord will never be restored to a functional state, in situ.
Bioprosthetics will be the way to go
http://www.neurotechreports.com/pages/NPWorkshop.html
A) keep your brain alive
B) provide sensory input to your brain
If it weren't for all the damn nerves, this might be fun!
Also, I've posted the Demikhov vid Schmawwy pointed to:
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-unethical-work-of-Vladmir-Demikhov
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Is there a "will" involved anywhere along this path. What compels DNA to replicate. Sometimes it seems inadequate to reduce it to chance chemical bonding. Though, it does appear the entire earthly biomass heaves and churns at the command of the double helix. Ultimately, I make the decision whether mine is perpetuated or not. Right now the DNA is saying, "perpetuate, perpetuate," Damn stuff won't leave me alone.
Stem cell-based organ replacement is already being done today, and interesting work has been done on hearts, bones, breasts, penises etc (long list in that link).
In that view, head transplants seem pretty crude.
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That seems to be the answer for the question: "What's the use of the brain in evolution?"
The question that's more important to me in the big picture: "What's the use of the brain for humankind today?"
I think the answer is that the use is whatever we choose it to be. (But I hope it's to increase human freedom
"The question that's more important to me in the big picture: "What's the use of the brain for humankind today?"
That's the point. Why has so much of our energy shifted away from procreation, which from DNAs standpoint, is the only thing that matters. An ant colony's social structure is solely based on perpetuating DNA. Humans, on the other hand, are off writing books, painting pictures, composing music, etc. Suddenly, evolutionarily speaking, there's all this wasted effort. Or is it wasted? I took up guitar so I could make music and..............meet girls. Damn, shot myself in the foot again.
I don't see as how your body does anything but:
A)...
Meatsuit!
I'm going to have to come back and absorb this awesome thread more carefully.