The police officers could be heard yelling stop resisting ;)

newtboysays...

Another example of why I'm not fit for a jury...when asked if I have any prejudice I answer honestly that I can't believe any police testimony because they are taught it's OK to lie in order to get evidence or compliance, and they obviously don't limit themselves to lying only in those instances. They are so prepared to lie they do things like beat up unconscious people while yelling 'stop resisting', believing they are only being recorded on audio, already preparing the lie they'll tell in court from the first contact with the 'suspect'.
On another note, the secondary title "POLICE ABUSE BEAT A ACCIDENT VICTIM" is pretty misleading, this was hardly an 'accident victim', he was a 'purposeful crash victim', and rightly so.

kevingrrsays...

Way to dig up a video from 2009.

The 5 police officers involved were all terminated.

This ended a 50 mile high speed chase. Notice when he tried to run over the police officer laying down the spike strip?

There are legitimate and current examples of police abuse of real victims...

Drachen_Jagersays...

It's not relevant what he did.

He was unconscious. Police should be held to a higher standard. Terminated from employment is not enough. Every officer involved should have spent at least a few years in jail, just like any ordinary person would for beating an unconscious person that way.

VoodooVsays...

uh yeah, he uhh..got those bruises in the crash your honor.

I find it amusing that these cops either forget they're on camera, or for some reason, there was no camera footage.

VoodooVsays...

that gives them the right to beat up on a guy who is already either unconscious or severely injured and no longer a threat?

The police are supposed to be above petty revenge

They are supposed to be the good guys, not judge jury and executioner. I dunno about you, but I don't want to live in a society with a bunch of Judge Dredd wannabes.

kevingrrsaid:

Way to dig up a video from 2009.

The 5 police officers involved were all terminated.

This ended a 50 mile high speed chase. Notice when he tried to run over the police officer laying down the spike strip?

There are legitimate and current examples of police abuse of real victims...

Sycraftsays...

No I believe his point was that:

1) This happened a long time ago. This really isn't relevant today, it is 5 year old news.

2) All the cops involved got punished. Maybe not as much as you or I would like, but they all got fired for this.

It gets a little silly to try and drudge up old stuff for no particular reason.

VoodooVsaid:

that gives them the right to beat up on a guy who is already either unconscious or severely injured and no longer a threat?

The police are supposed to be above petty revenge

They are supposed to be the good guys, not judge jury and executioner. I dunno about you, but I don't want to live in a society with a bunch of Judge Dredd wannabes.

VoodooVsays...

Im quite aware of what his point was, thank you

given current events, A video depicting police abuses is QUITE relevant, regardless of how old it is. What really isn't relevant is the "it's not relevant because it's old" argument.

Sycraftsaid:

No I believe his point was that:

1) This happened a long time ago. This really isn't relevant today, it is 5 year old news.

2) All the cops involved got punished. Maybe not as much as you or I would like, but they all got fired for this.

It gets a little silly to try and drudge up old stuff for no particular reason.

VoodooVsays...

the ONLY issue I have with the video is the youtube title, which obviously we can't control.

Just because I don't believe someone should get a violent beating not even 10 seconds after a crash doesn't mean I think this guy is innocent in any stretch of the imagination. Despite the shitty cops, hopefully he was charged with attempted vehicular homicide when/if he recovered. I suspect he's probably guilty of whatever instigated the chase in the first place also.

Nuance is a bitch isn't it

Yogisays...

Who said we have to be relevant on the sift? Or that 5 years is ancient history? I say there isn't a statute of limitations on evidence that is constantly ignored.

When a problem is systemic as long as that system exists in one form or another you can use the examples it creates for you. Otherwise all we have to go on is current stories and theory. That's simply not enough to convince, especially when we move from thing to thing so quickly in today's media. Again 5 years isn't ancient, to say this isn't relevant as an indictment of Police behavior because of how old it is or that the police were punished doesn't make sense.

It's a common belief that history doesn't matter to the people that hold the sticks, because they can move on easily. They weren't the victims, they bludgeoned the victims. This is why smart politicians always talk about the future, and moving forward. Shouldn't look back because then you will notice the crimes, and how the current politician is repeating those crimes.

On a more ridiculous note have you seen some of the shit on the sift. Why would you say this video isn't relevant? It has no description at all, or title, or tags that allude to Ferguson.

kevingrrsaid:

The shooting video in St. Louis yesterday is relevant. This is not.

If it hasn't found it way to the sift yet I'm sure it will soon.

lantern53says...

Surprised to read that 'the cops are supposed to be the good guys', which is quite contrary to the usual rant, which seems to be 'the cops are the agents of the antichrist'.

Being anti-cop is a lot like being racist, don't you think? If you spend time with people you don't know, you can begin to relate to them. Perhaps you should spend more time with the cops in your town. Maybe there is a ride-along program. You might be surprised what you learn from the experience.

Asmosays...

It's not being anti-cop, it's being anti-bad-cop...

You probably won't remember the recent video of a great cop that booked a guy tailgating a cyclist. You know, because it doesn't feed in to the narrative that exists between your ears.

Oh yeah, and why should we go tit for tat posting up criminals doing criminal things? They are criminals... We kinda fucking expect them to be the "bad" guys, it's hardly a surprise when they are... It's when the people put in a position of power and trust, public service, abuse that position that it's noteworthy. Sadly, that happens so often now that the most noteworthy points are when an officer performs with distinction, honour and humility, exactly the way he or she should...

http://videosift.com/video/How-a-Good-Cop-Behaves

Or how about this, where one good cop get's crushed because the dept. prefers to support two bad ones? The risk of being an honourable person in the police force isn't just from criminals, it's from coworkers as well.

http://videosift.com/video/Bogota-Police-Officer-Regina-Tasca-Suspended

So climb off your fucking self righteous steed (it must be uncomfortable riding it with your head up your ass). If you served as a police officer as you claim, your postings here give a pretty good indication of the type you were. And if you were a "good cop" in the truest sense of the words, doesn't your stomach turn to see how the entire profession is being dragged down by the criminals in your own ranks?

lantern53said:

Surprised to read that 'the cops are supposed to be the good guys', which is quite contrary to the usual rant, which seems to be 'the cops are the agents of the antichrist'.

Being anti-cop is a lot like being racist, don't you think? If you spend time with people you don't know, you can begin to relate to them. Perhaps you should spend more time with the cops in your town. Maybe there is a ride-along program. You might be surprised what you learn from the experience.

...

You might also show at least one video of cops being run over by cars, or shot to death for every video like this.

VoodooVsays...

wow, you didn't read my comment about nuance, did you, Lantern. comprehension fail...or could it be something else.

Hey @dag, I'll give you an opportunity to reconsider just who is really trolling who.

so sick and tired of this crap.

lantern53said:

Surprised to read that 'the cops are supposed to be the good guys', which is quite contrary to the usual rant, which seems to be 'the cops are the agents of the antichrist'.

Being anti-cop is a lot like being racist, don't you think? If you spend time with people you don't know, you can begin to relate to them. Perhaps you should spend more time with the cops in your town. Maybe there is a ride-along program. You might be surprised what you learn from the experience.

newtboysays...

Really? You can't see the difference between "supposed to be" and "are"? That's not good.

Being anti-criminal-cop is a far cry from being anti-cop unless, and this does make sense, as an officer are you conceding that ALL cops (that you know) are CRIMINAL?!? Once again, your blind support for obvious criminal behavior because it's perpetrated by one of your brothers in blue is disturbing to say the least, and that stance is a legitimate cause for people to believe cops are more likely to be criminal themselves than honest.

lantern53said:

Surprised to read that 'the cops are supposed to be the good guys', which is quite contrary to the usual rant, which seems to be 'the cops are the agents of the antichrist'.

Being anti-cop is a lot like being racist, don't you think? If you spend time with people you don't know, you can begin to relate to them. Perhaps you should spend more time with the cops in your town. Maybe there is a ride-along program. You might be surprised what you learn from the experience.

newtboysays...

I would point out that, in this video, we do have cops nearly run over by a car...intentionally. (videos of them actually being killed are snuff, and not allowed.) One 'bad' does not excuse or even logically explain another.
As explained beforehand, criminals are expected to be criminal, and they are punished for it. Cops are expected (and are paid well, are trained, are given equipment, and given 'authority') to STOP criminal behavior, not to perpetrate it. No excuses.

lantern53said:

You might also show at least one video of cops being run over by cars, or shot to death for every video like this.

shagen454says...

Definitely not irrelevant. I was just reading an article from MIT where they were able to extract audio from film footage that did not have an audio source. If we really need to hear what is being said in that cop car we could always have MIT extract the audio from the source file - it'll have artifacts but you would be able to hear exactly what the cops are saying in that car.

newtboysays...

Excellent point....if only it mattered. (see above for conclusion of this event) Maybe next time.

shagen454said:

Definitely not irrelevant. I was just reading an article from MIT where they were able to extract audio from film footage that did not have an audio source. If we really need to hear what is being said in that cop car we could always have MIT extract the audio from the source file - it'll have artifacts but you would be able to hear exactly what the cops are saying in that car.

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