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No, he has the right view.Christianity, like all religion, are tools of totalitarianism and blind obedience, its just coersive, lying, advanced memes for saying things like "Dont think for yourself" and "respect authority", Some people fall for this crap and think theres some advanced thinking that they are really doing, we call these people idio.. uh, religious
This guy sounds like he got all his material from C.S. Lewis.
Lucifer fell before Adam was created. God knew that Lucifer would tempt Adam and Eve; it was part of the plan. God is omnipotent and knows that without evil there can be no good and no progression. If God made a mistake he would cease to be God.
Whoa. We have a BOOKS channel? Nice!
Going back to the earlier point in the vid, who said we're perfect? That's news to me.
>> ^Jordass:
I cant help but think Colbert didnt really pwn anyone. He really didnt prove his side. All he did was change the word "obey" to "love" and therefore it must be good and right. Very Faux News of him in a way. We go to hell cause we fall out of Gods love? You mean we dont do what he says. I mean the author i think was making an interesting point that if man was made in gods image with the hopes of being perfect then even God has to admit he fucked up. We arent perfect (which makes life worth living i might add) but of course God can never admit when he's wrong or the whole universe would implode Dogma style but with no Chris Rock. He derailed a little when he said Satan was right and God was wrong, he was trying to prove a point that if you ever disobey you will be forever damned. Satan was Gods favorite angel and yet he had no problem in making him the epitome of all evil to dwell forever in hell and as George Carlin said he has no problem sending us to hell to suffer and burn and rot for all eternity because he loves us. Colbert sounded like another individual who has been brainwashed into this manipulative concept to cover up why God punishes us for not doing exactly what he says by calling it "Love"
I know where you're coming from, but this is a basic tenet of Catholic theology, not Faux News at all. You don't "go to hell cause we fall out of God's love"... hell is the state of being when you choose NOT to love God.
You're not being SENT there. You *Choose* to go there.
What the video doesn't mention is that you're supposed to listen to your conscience, which some wise people have defined as the voice of God in your soul - but more practically, it's your sense of what's right and wrong. If you think the 'authority' is wrong, and you genuinely feel it's the morally correct thing to do (i.e., don't let the government imprison and kill your neighbour for being of a different race/creed), then you're doing the right thing by 'disobeying', because you're following a higher law, the law of goodness, not some corrupt evil thing dreamed up by psychopaths.
The logic is that Satan chose to become the epitome of evil.
>> ^BicycleRepairMan:
That guy may know psychology, but he has one twisted view of Christian theology.
No, he has the right view.Christianity, like all religion, are tools of totalitarianism and blind obedience, its just coersive, lying, advanced memes for saying things like "Dont think for yourself" and "respect authority", Some people fall for this crap and think theres some advanced thinking that they are really doing, we call these people idio.. uh, religious
Seriously, this is not Jesus' teaching, nor the teaching of the Catholic Church. After all, Jesus was essentially murdered / executed for advocating disobedience to corrupt authority figures.
>> ^Jordass:
Deedub I have heard this explanation before and personally i think it casts an even more negative light on religion and God. If God knows all and knew Eve would be tempted because evil needs to exist then he was just setting up an elaborate scheme just to punish us in the end. "Oh here is paradise" all the while knowing that he is going to cast out his creations. Why go through this whole bipolar process of giving and taking away unless you were either sadistic or wanted to make sure people stayed in their place and obeyed. Much like the old wrathful bitter god and the new loving forgiving god supposedly being the same god. God has played this trick before with Abraham and Jobb and its a pretty sick way to make a point. I dont like being used, we are not puppets, and it seems thats all God does is use us for the purposes of loving him.
This mixes up cause and effect, really. Watch the Star Trek episode where, IIRC, Q forces a chick to love Riker. That's what would happen if you didn't have free will.
Organized Religion is, reduced to a raw point, a way of coping with the blowback from free will. (i.e., means of delivering salvation)
You can have a semantic argument about whether this is a "sick game" to make you love God, or an intelligent response to a messy problem, but I've made my position clear.
Glad to see something that's not so atheistic in the top 15.
I think it's too bad they got caught up in this faux-theological debate, because Zimbardo's and Milgram's experiments clearly show that "evil" is something we are all capable of under the right conditions. I think if they had talked more about that, Colbert and Zimbardo would have agreed that determining whether the authority that you're obeying is acting ethically or not is extremely difficult when you're forced to make on-the-spot decisions. Like Zimbardo said, you need to be critical of why you're doing what you're ordered or expected to do. Otherwise you may wind up engaging in behaviors that seem rational at the time but in hindsight turn out to have horrific consequences.
You run into trouble in the 'grey' areas where the Right Choice isn't necessarily obvious. It's sort of where life gets interesting.
In theory organized religion reduces the conflicting opinions on the grey areas factor, but even within and amongst religions you sometimes get disagreement.
But it's important not to get stuck in the weeds when you're enjoying the forest - the vast majority of religions and their rules boil down to "be good to others and share the love", so the differences are generally cosmetic.
It's like the ~3% of DNA that separates us from animals that also rubs against various peoples' belief systems causing the Stupidities unfortunately.
>> ^Jordass:
I do like how you brought up conscience. To listen to your gut in a sense because i can relate to that in many ways. The only problem with that is when you get millions of people following the same religion and all of their guts are saying different things. So you're inevitably going to come into conflict of "im right you're wrong". Thats why ideally (though it never seems to work out) all religion should remain personal. That way if god is in your soul and speaking to you no one else can tell you its wrong and what it "should" be saying. Its the "organized" part of organized religion that I have a serious problem with.