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Steorn - Free energy technology, or hoax?

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An Irish company, Steorn, has been making waves with claims to have built technology that produces limitless clean energy. They have taken an ad out in The Economist, inviting sceptical people with the right qualifications to try and disprove them...

http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/Default.aspx

Either the world has just been brought back from the brink, or it's an elaborate and expensive hoax. Discuss.


written by haggis  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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Ok, so gee they make a video and it hypes their new discovery, and has no technical details but some magnets in a circle.

Can you say vaporware? If they did have a perpetual motion machine, let alone, a free energy machine. I guarantee you would not have heard about it... They would have just sold it to a military, or make their own power plant.

Clearly this is marketing BS. And it did make a vaporware splash on the internet.


written by joedirt  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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I need some free energy to power my BS detector. These folks are making it run up quite an electric bill...


written by Wepwawet  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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Yeah, very suspicious of this kind of stuff. Still interesting though.


written by dag  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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Please sign up on our website and we will let you evaluate our new product. Sure they will get 1,000 scientists and engineers to review their product for FREE, and all of them will conclude there is not net gain in energy through a cycle.. But then again, they are getting free publicity, free peer review, free exposure to possible investors... So maybe there is a net gain in free crap for these idiots.


LOL.. total idiots. "if you walk up a hill and back to the same starting spot, there is a net gain in energy".. Ok.. freakin' morans. I think the whole concept is you wear coils and walk around in huge permanent magnetic fields, so yes, you are converting your work calories into some current. And you probably could charge a small device this way.. but have fun with that.


written by joedirt  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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That statement about walking to the top of the hill and back to the bottom had me scratching my head. It sounded more like a Super Karate Monkey Death Car translation than someone saying what they wanted to say in a prepared presentation. Maybe I'm missing something, but the only way that makes the slightest sense is if you bought some batteries at the 7-11 while you were at the top of the hill.

Going around in circles in a magnetic field is a kinda/sorta crude explanation of how to generate electricity, but I don't understand why you have to stop every cycle, and you still have to expend energy to make the little logo go around in circles in the first place.

And you gotta admit, "the first roadblock is the world of science" is one of the best lines ever. The late great Douglas Adams must be writing their press copy.



written by Wepwawet  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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What would be the point of getting free marketing, free peer review, free exposure if it didn't actually work?

Wouldn't you then just be advertising the fact that you are a d*ckhead and be left with a mailing list of scientists that hate you?


written by ren  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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There's nothing free about it, ren - I don't know how much it takes to take an ad out in the Economist but I guarantee it's more than a bag of crisps.

Which leaves me asking the same question as you - what would be their possible motive to lie about this (assuming they're not just confused about what they've done)?

Stories of these kind of devices have been turning up on the internets every so often for years now, and they're usually followed by a HTTP 404 or a claim that 'the yakuza stole the technology'.

Still, this does seem like a fairly audacious move. And they're not claiming to violate the principle of conservation of energy. Strictly speaking, a windmill has a coefficient of performance > 1.0, and a century ago nuclear fission would have been thought of as free energy, just because we wouldn't have been able to explain where the energy was coming from. So I'm prepared to reserve judgment until the results come in - maybe they've found a way to tap zero point energy or something exotic like that.




written by haggis  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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so they wanted to do this behind closed doors but that won't work, so now they're forced to take on investors right?
The best part is when he says it's a limit imposed by the laws of physics...and the challenge is to say, do these laws apply in this instance? apparently they haven't figured out whether the laws of physics apply to their little cartoon magnets yet.
I'm no scientist but I'm betting they do.


written by JonnyB  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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here's hoping they have succeeded... but the way the were talking about it did not fill me with any confidence. Especially the marketing dude..


written by ren  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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I believe he said "you walk back past the bottom of the hill", meaning past the starting point. Otherwise, I agree, the analogy makes no sense.
I hope they have found what they claim, and can produce it cheaply. Solar power is free energy too, except it costs too much for its inefficient collection.
If they can route off some of the investment capital they're seeking, it may be worth an elaborate ruse, should that be the case.


written by zudo  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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update: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/gizmos/0,71626-0.html?tw=rss.index


written by pho3n1x  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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http://web.archive.org/web/20010303074205/www.steorn.com/index.html

Sean McCarthy, still ceo of the now repurposed company, was around in 2001 at least... same person, same corporate name, but then it was management for e-commerce projects. How do you get from management of e-commerce to advanced electromagnetics?


written by tooley  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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Total hoax crap. Why must all the media always jump over this. If they had something 'scientific' it would be the most top-secret project ever. With tons of cash from rich folks.


written by joedirt  | 3 years 3 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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There's no such thing as 'free' energy. As the patentholder, I plan to charge less that petrol-based fuels - cheap enough to put all the world's energy megaopolies under - but I will not give it away. So please change the name and tags on this video.


written by JerkyTwins  | 3 years ago | CH
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