Tags for this video have been changed from 'creation, museum, christianity, science, kentucky' to 'creation, museum, christianity, science, kentucky, hand talker' - edited by MycroftHomlz
There is so much to comment on in this video and a lot of my comments on religion are pretty harsh, but I think the funniest part of the video for me was when one of the guys said the Bible has genealogies that he believes to be reliable. Unfortunately for him, the Bible lists two genealogies for Jesus which contradict each other in numerous ways. Maybe he should have read his book before he decided to defend it.
I still have yet to find someone tell me how the whole human population can come 2 people *without* suffering form genetic abnormalities or huge genetic defects from the incestual relations that will happen after a few generations.
These people really make me want to hit my head against something hard because of their insanely twisted and convoluted logic.
Saying that Adam & Eve are real because everything else they preach can't be real if they are just a metaphor is circular argument that pretty much everything they spout turns back into. This can't be true if that isn't true, so that is true because this is true... um, how do they not laugh at their own ludicrous non-logic?
And to say that we work and understand in this universe because the universe and us were created as one is also stupid. We evolved INTO this universe, we evolved FROM it... we are what we are because we evolved in THIS universe. If it were another universe we would have evolved to fit THAT one. Again... non-logic.
It's effectively admitting that, well, if this core belief is not true, and all the other subsequent beliefs are based on that and so also wouldn't be true if that weren't then the whole belief systems falls down if you prove that wrong. They can't imagine a world without their religion, so they try their damnedest, and spend enormous amounts of time and money, to 'prove' the original event as being 'fact'. Except all they have shown is that it's true because the rest of the bible is true, so it's true.
Taking back Astronomy? WHAT? When did the church EVER 'own' Astronomy... that's just blatant lying.
Holy crap people who spout the rubbish notion that if you don't believe in god you are obviously just a crass consumerist with no morals or ethics who loves chaos are SO amazingly annoying. How they can't wrap their little, puny minds around the concept that people DON'T NEED to be threatened with eternal suffering in brimstone to be good people is beyond me.
I'm not entirely sure what his closing bit was supposed to show... is he religious? Is he religious and agrees with them? Is he religious and disagrees with them?
In the beginning, there were only Adam and Eve, right? So in theory, every single human should have a direct family line to them, since there's no one else to connect to after that "generation".
Why then, is it significant that Jesus Christ is descended from Adam? (3:27). Aren't we all?
On 15 February 1990, in a speech delivered at the Sapienza University of Rome, Cardinal Ratzinger (later to become Pope Benedict XVI) cited some current views on the Galileo affair as forming what he called "a symptomatic case that permits us to see how deep the self-doubt of the modern age, of science and technology goes today."
>> ^ponceleon: I'm not sure commandeering is the right word... what the word for "shitting all over?"
Well, that's the thing. If they were just insulting or discrediting science that wouldn't bother me nearly as much. Instead they're putting on the labcoats, so to speak, and trying to speak from a position of authority that they don't deserve.
lol at 2:50, '... even large sauropods, as young adults, were not overly large (and could fit on the ark)...'
It all makes sense now... Noah caught 'young adult' dinosaurs, put them on a wooden ark for 40 days with every other animal, and then let 'em go to spread about the world and become fossils embedded in the rock for us to now find.
Actually I bet Noah would be pissed, having done all that dinosaur wrangling only for God to kill them off.
Steaks on a platter, all of them. Let them continue to breed, fight and die in our wars for us and be contented as cattle in the service of their "lord".
They "solve" the dinosaur problem by saying they were young and small when Noah brought them onto the Arch? Why not say they left 'em to die and thus also explain their extinction. Gee these idiots even suck at making stuff up.
And weren't Noah and his family the only people on the Arch? Then how did the world get repopulated? Way to glorify incest, taking the bible literally is pretty gross!
The most disturbing part of this video, in my opinion, are the small children visiting and "learning" from this museum. Yes, this current generation is fucked up, but slowly these assholes are ruining future generations as well.
I just think it's hilarious how they so badly want to use the "authority" of science (something they clearly do not understand) to support their faith and in the same breath, completely discount and attempt to discredit the worldview from which science springs - that is, one of scepticism, lacking preconceived conclusions.
It just goes to show that the only proof of truth for these mental midgets comes in the form of the argument from authority which in itself is a form of circular argument (why is X true? Because Y says so. Why does Y say so? Because it's true).
Stumble This
holy fuck.
How can he be afraid of science when it's not real science that he's talking about?
Oh, and the next time I want a lesson in history, I'll pick up the Bible. That's all I need evidently.
Saying that Adam & Eve are real because everything else they preach can't be real if they are just a metaphor is circular argument that pretty much everything they spout turns back into. This can't be true if that isn't true, so that is true because this is true... um, how do they not laugh at their own ludicrous non-logic?
And to say that we work and understand in this universe because the universe and us were created as one is also stupid. We evolved INTO this universe, we evolved FROM it... we are what we are because we evolved in THIS universe. If it were another universe we would have evolved to fit THAT one. Again... non-logic.
It's effectively admitting that, well, if this core belief is not true, and all the other subsequent beliefs are based on that and so also wouldn't be true if that weren't then the whole belief systems falls down if you prove that wrong. They can't imagine a world without their religion, so they try their damnedest, and spend enormous amounts of time and money, to 'prove' the original event as being 'fact'. Except all they have shown is that it's true because the rest of the bible is true, so it's true.
Taking back Astronomy? WHAT? When did the church EVER 'own' Astronomy... that's just blatant lying.
Holy crap people who spout the rubbish notion that if you don't believe in god you are obviously just a crass consumerist with no morals or ethics who loves chaos are SO amazingly annoying. How they can't wrap their little, puny minds around the concept that people DON'T NEED to be threatened with eternal suffering in brimstone to be good people is beyond me.
I'm not entirely sure what his closing bit was supposed to show... is he religious? Is he religious and agrees with them? Is he religious and disagrees with them?
Not a very well put together 'doco'
In the beginning, there were only Adam and Eve, right? So in theory, every single human should have a direct family line to them, since there's no one else to connect to after that "generation".
Why then, is it significant that Jesus Christ is descended from Adam? (3:27). Aren't we all?
Ugh. Their belief system doesn't bother me. The fact that they're commandeering science to prop it up does.
I'm not sure commandeering is the right word... what the word for "shitting all over?"
Now I need to forget that I knew that...
Quoth the Wikipedia:
On 15 February 1990, in a speech delivered at the Sapienza University of Rome, Cardinal Ratzinger (later to become Pope Benedict XVI) cited some current views on the Galileo affair as forming what he called "a symptomatic case that permits us to see how deep the self-doubt of the modern age, of science and technology goes today."
"Abe: Buuuurn Him!"
Well, that's the thing. If they were just insulting or discrediting science that wouldn't bother me nearly as much. Instead they're putting on the labcoats, so to speak, and trying to speak from a position of authority that they don't deserve.
It all makes sense now... Noah caught 'young adult' dinosaurs, put them on a wooden ark for 40 days with every other animal, and then let 'em go to spread about the world and become fossils embedded in the rock for us to now find.
Actually I bet Noah would be pissed, having done all that dinosaur wrangling only for God to kill them off.
Also, I have that New Scientist edition.
Now bow before my Wolf-y resemblance.
Noah obviously carried the dinosaurs on as babies. No other explanation would be reasonable.
And weren't Noah and his family the only people on the Arch? Then how did the world get repopulated? Way to glorify incest, taking the bible literally is pretty gross!
Then how did the world get repopulated? Way to glorify incest, taking the bible literally is pretty gross!
That's saying a "Lot."
It just goes to show that the only proof of truth for these mental midgets comes in the form of the argument from authority which in itself is a form of circular argument (why is X true? Because Y says so. Why does Y say so? Because it's true).