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Sen Levin destroys Harold Ickes at RBC

posted by NetRunner 1 year 6 months 1 week ago • 862 views
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An exchange from the Democatic party's Rules and Bylaws Committee between Senator Levin of Michigan (an Obama supporter), and Harold Ickes who is both a member of the rules committee, as well as being a senior strategist for the Clinton campaign.

The topic being discussed is how to handle the delegates from the Michigan primary, where only Hillary Clinton was on the ballot. The final results were 55% Clinton, and 40% uncommitted.

The Michigan state Democratic party has proposed splitting the delegates 69 Clinton, 59 Obama, which Harold Ickes opposes, either because he is concerned that the rules committee doesn't have the power to do it, or because he's trying to help his candidate.

Levin, who is not a member of the committee, argues in favor of the compromise forcefully, due to the flawed nature of the contest.

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written by NetRunner  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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written by siftbot  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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Harold Ickes is obviously well practiced in the art of talking out both sides of his ass at once. Else where he talked about how all elections are flawed in some way but counted, and thus just because the Michigan and Florida elections were flawed doesn't mean they shouldn't be counted in full. How nice and simple it would be if we could just ignore things in terms of degrees. Maybe the next time Mr. Ickes stubs his toe his doctor will amputate claiming, "whether is gangrene or a stubbed toe its still damaged and must be removed".

Personally I think they were given way way more than they deserved, especially since Hillary supported the DNC's decision to punish Florida and Michigan, until it became apparent she might actually need those states. If she really gave a shit about Florida or Michigan she would be pushing for nothing less than a complete revote in both states.


written by Crosswords  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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Harold Ickes personally voted in favor of stripping Michigan and Florida of all their delegates at the previous meeting of the RBC.


written by NetRunner  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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Harold Ickes has maybe the most appropriate name ever.


written by Tofumar  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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Hell yes - open can of whoop ass and apply liberally.


written by dag  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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I don't understand this debate. Were those two states not told they would lose their delegates if they moved up their primaries? Did they not move up their primaries despite that warning? Was the issue not moot until Hillary realized she needed more votes? Is it not obvious to anybody watching that they are changing the rules after the contest is over? Is it not obvious that major parties involved are hypocrites? Is it not obvious they are tearing their party apart in their efforts to secure the nomination for their personal choice?


written by MaxWilder  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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A president who is a pathological liar and changes the rules whenever the rules run contrary to their interests. Does the United States really want another of those? I absolutely cannot fathom why anyone still supports Hiliarry.


written by Drachen_Jager  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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^It all should be very obvious. I think you hit the nail on the head, and it's why I'm pissed at the whole thing. Instead of sticking to their principles they just rolled over and took it. The news casters kept saying how this proved the Clinton's no longer owned the party because she didn't get her way 100%, if this were anyone else it'd be the no contest it should have been.


written by Crosswords  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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you know Netrunner,
I think a description would've really helped here. Just to give us some context. I'm not sure why you skipped filling it out - there really isn't much clear here from the title. Or your tags. Or the labels.
Just requestin', please don't skimp on the description.


written by doogle  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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^ You're quite right. This definitely needs some background information.


written by NetRunner  | 1 year 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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