Wow, only 4 broken ribs after a car runs you over? I realize that terrible pain, but the human body is a pretty awesome thing to take that kind of abuse and keep ticking.
Wasn't the other guy way out of line as well? The guy who got run over had already beaten the guy up, now he was destroying his car, who knows what was next. If you assault someones person and property, expect extreme reactions...you life in now in jeopardy.
Meh, the guy that attacked him had it coming. If the driver wanted to cross the t's and dot the i's, he could have gotten out and stayed at the scene till the police showed up.
Backs up the self defense case nicely... *evil grin*
Seriously though, I think leaving the scene might get the driver a harsher penalty, but I think a strong argument could be made for self defense. If you believe that your life might be in danger, you get a lot more latitude on "proportionate force".
The man who ran the guy over: Arrestable for Hit and Run, Assault with A Deadly Weapon, and numerous traffic violations.
Add the word "Aggravated" to that. It's a much lesser crime when you nearly kill someone that just beat the living snot out of you than when you do it just for fun or because he cut you off in the intersection.
>> ^Payback: Sure, he might be arrested for running the guy over, but at least he got the GOURANGA.
Oh my god, totally the best one-liner I've seen in weeks. Sure, the GTA4 reference above made sense, but this one just went the extra mile (No pun intended!).
Not sure I'd call that self-defense, necessarily... he could've stopped long before he ran the guy over. But with that kind of adrenaline in the system, who knows what I would've done... I may very well have done the exact same thing.
>> ^chilaxe: Seemed like it could have been regarded as self-defense.
The driver looks like he was just in a long fight... like wrestling on the pavement or being kicked on the ground.
Not only that, but the beaten guy was obviously retreating from the now finished brawl and the other guy came at him a second time! Since he was in a car but with a window opened, the thing prescribed by self-defense law would be to flee the scene. That is what he did (if he had gone in reverse he would have smashed the assailant's car, which could be construed as retaliation). The situation is similar to crashing in a car running a red light: not your fault.
The man who ran the guy over: Arrestable for Hit and Run, Assault with A Deadly Weapon, and numerous traffic violations.
Only if you can prove intent to harm, without reasonable doubt. In the video it looks like the driver turns so as to run his assailant over, be he could defend himself by saying he tried to shake him off the hood, however clumsily. I'm pretty sure a jury would side with the victim here. There's also the matter of the Castle Doctrine, which stipulates you can use deadly force to defend a place legally occupied, and where in some jurisdiction "place" can also include a car.
I wouldn't find the driver guilty for anything evident in the video. He couldn't have known he would run the guy over (who *was* up on his windshield when the car started moving), and getting the hell out of there is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
Plus, that other guy was (apparently) a total asshole. No sympathy.
no sympathy indeed, how can they prosecute this driver? wtf are you supposed to do when someone beats you up and leaves you lying in the street THEN comes and breaks your windshield.
what if the guy had poured gasoline on the hood of the car and went to light it? (as i often see in Reno 911) it's not far off from that situation though. He's gotten violent enough to start just beating up the guys car.
There's a difference between self defense and attempted manslaughter.
To all who thinks this was "self defense": try it and when you show up as a felon at my facility, I'll laugh at you as I tell you when and where you can and can't go what what you can and can't do.
Totally justifiable. I wouldn't feel bad for the guy in the red shirt if his spine got torn apart and his guts were spilled all over the street. In fact I would feel like all was right with the world.
What exactly is the guy in the car supposed to do, Marine? He's just had the fucking shit beaten out of him... he's trying to escape and the attacker JUMPS ON HIS CAR. The attacker's car is behind him, there's only one place to go. At that point I'd say all bets are off, red shirt guy is asking to be run over.
Have you ever been randomly assaulted in public? I have, and during my escape, anybody jumping on my car would have been in serious danger, ESPECIALLY if it was the frigging guy attacking me.
Anyhow, keep on keeping america safe by power tripping at the brig or whatever bullshit you're talking about.
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he was probably 2cm away from a broken spine, 10cm from a smashed skull and maybe 5cm from death.
but it was a small car
My motto: Always drive as if the other guy has a gun. He just might.
What if it wasn't that at all?
The driver looks like he was just in a long fight... like wrestling on the pavement or being kicked on the ground.
Backs up the self defense case nicely... *evil grin*
Seriously though, I think leaving the scene might get the driver a harsher penalty, but I think a strong argument could be made for self defense. If you believe that your life might be in danger, you get a lot more latitude on "proportionate force".
The man who beat the guy up: Arrestable for Felony Aggravated Assault, Destruction of Property, Jwalking among other things.
The man who ran the guy over: Arrestable for Hit and Run, Assault with A Deadly Weapon, and numerous traffic violations.
So in this case the guy who was beat up would probably spend more time in jail than the guy who beat him up.
Lucky no one got shot.
The man who ran the guy over: Arrestable for Hit and Run, Assault with A Deadly Weapon, and numerous traffic violations.
Add the word "Aggravated" to that. It's a much lesser crime when you nearly kill someone that just beat the living snot out of you than when you do it just for fun or because he cut you off in the intersection.
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Upvote because people need to see this video and calm the fuck down on the road. This is bad, and could have been much worse.
My motto: Always drive as if the other guy has a gun. He just might.
precisely why my .45 rides shotgun =)
Sure, he might be arrested for running the guy over, but at least he got the GOURANGA.
Oh my god, totally the best one-liner I've seen in weeks. Sure, the GTA4 reference above made sense, but this one just went the extra mile (No pun intended!).
Seemed like it could have been regarded as self-defense.
The driver looks like he was just in a long fight... like wrestling on the pavement or being kicked on the ground.
Not only that, but the beaten guy was obviously retreating from the now finished brawl and the other guy came at him a second time! Since he was in a car but with a window opened, the thing prescribed by self-defense law would be to flee the scene. That is what he did (if he had gone in reverse he would have smashed the assailant's car, which could be construed as retaliation). The situation is similar to crashing in a car running a red light: not your fault.
The man who ran the guy over: Arrestable for Hit and Run, Assault with A Deadly Weapon, and numerous traffic violations.
Only if you can prove intent to harm, without reasonable doubt. In the video it looks like the driver turns so as to run his assailant over, be he could defend himself by saying he tried to shake him off the hood, however clumsily. I'm pretty sure a jury would side with the victim here. There's also the matter of the Castle Doctrine, which stipulates you can use deadly force to defend a place legally occupied, and where in some jurisdiction "place" can also include a car.
Plus, that other guy was (apparently) a total asshole. No sympathy.
wtf are you supposed to do when someone beats you up and leaves you lying in the street THEN comes and breaks your windshield.
what if the guy had poured gasoline on the hood of the car and went to light it? (as i often see in Reno 911) it's not far off from that situation though. He's gotten violent enough to start just beating up the guys car.
self defense all the way
To all who thinks this was "self defense": try it and when you show up as a felon at my facility, I'll laugh at you as I tell you when and where you can and can't go what what you can and can't do.
What exactly is the guy in the car supposed to do, Marine? He's just had the fucking shit beaten out of him... he's trying to escape and the attacker JUMPS ON HIS CAR. The attacker's car is behind him, there's only one place to go. At that point I'd say all bets are off, red shirt guy is asking to be run over.
Have you ever been randomly assaulted in public? I have, and during my escape, anybody jumping on my car would have been in serious danger, ESPECIALLY if it was the frigging guy attacking me.
Anyhow, keep on keeping america safe by power tripping at the brig or whatever bullshit you're talking about.
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