Richard Dawkins: One Fact to Refute Creationism
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Stumble ThisYT description: "Dawkins identifies what he views is the single most compelling fact to refute Creationism -- but states that the real problem lies in convincing Creationists to listen to the evidence."
Oh snap!
Again the only thing I dont like about this guy is that he is very rude. Does he have to say disgrace that kind of talk will lead us down a road the human race has been to over and over and over again. Im not saying the guy is not smart or right he just does not seem very tolerant. Which in the way I view things people who are not tolerant are like animals and less evolved.
WTF does tolerance have to do with evolution? I highly doubt being more tolerant gives you an evolutionary advantage. Pretty poor choice of words there, not to mention the blatant hypocrisy of you not being able to tolerate Dawkins' attitude.
Kudos to Dawkins for having the balls to tell it like it is.
For example, I am 10,000% certain that the belief in a god that created all life--and that we are at the mercy of this mega-being--is a completely idiotic and absurd ideal. However, I am not so certain about the existence or non-existence of a higher consciousness. To me, the two are not two pieces of the same puzzle.
I did not however stoop to harsh words about a whole mass of people that live on the earth today. ISaying a whole group of people is a disgrace because they chose to believe there might be life after death is a little much. To me thats like saying you should be ashamed for being human.
Oh yeah? You just said "people who are not tolerant are like animals and less evolved."
Calling Dawkins and others who think like him an animal, that's not stooping to harsh words about a whole mass of people? < /Facepalm >
There are creationists who use thier belief system as an excuse to behave like jackasses. Dawkins is an atheist who uses his atheism as an excuse to behave like a jackass. In every group you have people lacking the character, spine, and decency to stop themselves from becoming prejudiced cads.
God, you're dumb. Please explain to us how Dawkins is acting like a jackass in this video.
to the Earth, chemically
to the rest of the universe, atomically"
"we're all related, to each other, biologically
to the Earth, chemically
to the rest of the universe, atomically"
"...So how 'bout we go back to my place and get related anatomically?"
Then: "I think you want a video-sharing site that ISN'T dominated by vocal insecure people who happen to favor atheism and liberalism."
Well done. You get the medal for consecutive self-referential posts! I actually laughed out loud at this one.
But theism contains hundreds of millions of quiet, unassuming, hard working, humble people who aren't anything like what Dawkins chooses to portray as 'religion'. Such persons merely follow the tenents of their philosophy without flash or glitz. Dawkins takes a minority of the noisy, jerky theists - paints them with a biased brush - rhetorically pretends that they represent the majority thought of all theists - and then makes generalized condemnations of everyone.
So on my part, I'm accurately describing a small population of people who really are desmonstrating the behavior I claimed (vocal, insecure, atheist, liberal). Dawkins is inaccurately describing a huge population of people who are not demonstrating the behavior he claims.
Dawkins does talk about "all" theists occasionally, but for the most part he is specifically talking about creationists and evangelicals who are pushing their beliefs onto those who feel differently. If it weren't for those assholes, we wouldn't even need to have these conversations. They could believe whatever nonsense they wanted to, and we could quietly ignore them. But when they try to push creationism as science, or try to convince everyone that the US is a christian nation and that laws need to reflect that, they go too far and must be opposed.
And "theism contains hundreds of millions of quiet, unassuming, hard working, humble people" who don't lift a finger to stop the ones who would force the rest of us to conform.
And about that insecurity thing... atheists don't have a weekly brainwashing session. You'd never hear from us if it wasn't for people shoving their fairy tales in our faces.
I really don't think my point is getting across to well in above statements. Maybe I can sum up my whole issue in just a few lines. I had no problem with this video until the last line when he insulted at least half of the worlds population. I know people who are the exact representation of what he is describing and they are not a disgrace period. If he were sitting in front of me and a few of these people and said that I would be very confrontational just on how insulting that whole comment is whether I believe hes right or not. Otherwise he had not said anything that I did not already know. : )
As for "conforming", perhaps "compromise" is a better word. In the sense that we would have to compromise our standards of teaching only evidence based science in the science classrooms. That we would have to compromise our policy of maintaining a religion-neutral government when we put the ten commandments in a courthouse. They are trying to force us to stoop to their level when they insist that their magical thinking is on the same level as evidence and rationality.
If a person can't distinguish fact from fiction, or if they just don't have the will to try, then they are useless and deserve no respect.