Since when did cannon fodder get the right to vote? They only deserve the right to die. In the countries Our Leader chooses to invade.

"This is serious stuff, why does the production style have to resemble a bad sitcom?"

Seriously.

>> ^Krupo:
"This is serious stuff, why does the production style have to resemble a bad sitcom?"
Seriously.


I don't get it either. Greg Palast is a fantastic reporter, but this almost seems like parody.

^This might be part of some Rolling Stone Broadcast or something. It seems to have a slot for a commercial in the middle.

man i hope rove gets the "oink like a piggy" treatment in prison.

What the fuck is that? Any one know a site that has the emails?

And you still think they won fair and square in 2000?

I'm a big fan of Palast, but he's one of those reporters who would do best to stay in print and get a video pro to cover his investigations.

This doesn't make any sense. All U.S. citizens residing overseas, either temporarily or permanently, can request a vote-by-mail ballot. The fact that you are not currently in the U.S. in no way impacts your ability to vote. They can't "disenfranchise" you as this (hilariously overdone) clip proposes. This sounds more like the Republicans are trying to close a loophole where people are going to be voting from overseas but are also still registered to vote in their original state.

Here are the rules for overseas vote-by-mail request in California: http://www.sfgov.org/site/elections_index.asp?id=60428

Notice that all you need to do is provide proof you're a citizen and give them the last address you stayed at in Cali (they probably cross-check it with tax records to make sure you're actually a California resident).

So, I fail to see how this could be a plan to disenfranchise military voters since 1) it wouldn't work and 2) don't most active military vote Republican?

>> ^SDGundamXo, I fail to see how this could be a plan to disenfranchise military voters since 1) it wouldn't work and 2) don't most active military vote Republican?



1) This is pretty much exactly how they've disenfranchised people before (oh, we mailed your confirmation to your address in the 9th ward, and you didn't respond. you can't vote!)

2) Who knows? The military doesn't like giving pollsters any records relating to voting or party affiliation. But I did read that over 30% of registered military voters are independent. And Obama has received way more donations from military personnel than McCain. (something like 6-1)

>> ^volumptuous:
>> 1) This is pretty much exactly how they've disenfranchised people before (oh, we mailed your confirmation to your address in the 9th ward, and you didn't respond. you can't vote!)


That's my point though, you don't need confirmation. You contact the department of elections in your state, they mail you a ballot at your overseas address. That simple.

Or, cross compare voter registration records in Florida against criminal records in Texas (note, a completely different state), axing anyone with the same or similar names in Florida of anyone who matches that criminal name list.

Think it didn't happen? It did. It was discussed in Congress and broadcast on C-span. The company admitting to providing the name match list admitted to being paid by the Florida election commission and executing the task.

Talk about disenfranchising tens of thousands of voters from a presidential election. It does happen. There is evidence proving it does happen. What does congress do about it? Nothing.

This isn't a Democrat or Republican issue. This is a Democracy issue. ALL US citizens should be concerned. If one party can rig the vote one way, you bet your ass the other party can too.

I could be way wrong on this one but I'm pretty sure that this is from the 2004 election. Tim Griffin I believe doesnt work in the whitehouse anymore. This is all from memory but I believe he was a part of the attorney generals scandal because he was appointed the AG slot in arkansas after the legit former AG was fired by Bush. Who knows where he is now. Anyway, this rings a bell for their 2004 dirty tricks.

@jwalther420 - its a new post on his youtube blog, but it looks like you are correct (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/30/griffin-resigns/)

@SDGumdamX - You make a good point; maybe if they are currently deployed but expecting to be on leave at their residence on the Naval Air Station to vote, they may not have planned on casting an absentee ballot. These individuals might miss a postcard testing whether their address is correct, and might then be swept from the voter roll without them knowing.
(http://www.duvalelections.com/content.aspx?id=31)

@sdGumdamX - You're right about overseas residents obtaining voter cards, but I don't think that is the point of a scheme like this. What happens is the party sends a registered letter to your residence of record. If you are not there to receive the letter, then the party can protest that your name should be removed from the registered voter list.

Of course, you can get your name re-instated, but its hard to do that when you probably don't even know its been removed. It's a hassle to get reinstated, and the party (in this case Republican) is betting that a high percentage of voters won't bother.

The idea is that the more difficult it is to vote, the less likely you are to vote - and I suspect that at a statistical level that it is very true.

Title is misleading. This has already been done. And Democrats are too wimpy to do anything about it. Neo-Cons will win eventually, unless their opposition grows a pair.