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f1,formula,renault,crash,dubai,sheik,bad driver Renault F1 Crash @ Dubai Autodrome

Renault F1 Crash @ Dubai Autodrome

posted by kulpims 6 months 3 weeks ago • 1559 views
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So, you're Sheik Mohammad Bin Sulayem and your greatest wish is to drive a Formula 1 car. When the Team Renault F1 Roadshow comes to your country, the United Arab Emirates, you finally get that chance. Participating in a drag-style shootout against a Ford GT, you are ready to show everybody what you can do with a Formula 1 car.

When the lights go green, you put the pedal to the metal, only to crash the car into the pitwall 5 seconds later. The bill for the heavily damaged car? No more than $2,600,000. (nicked from http://presurfer.blogspot.com)

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The description makes it sound like he's some shmoe with more money than brains, but the guy is a actually a very accomplished rally driver.


written by TickleMyElmo  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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^ What he said. Bin Sulayem is a Middle East rally legend. Shame this happened really.


written by Hybrid  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Frickin' yard sale!


written by eric3579  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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^ I mean absolutely no disrespect to rally drivers (cause it's a completely different experience of driving and takes tremendous skill, too), but this crash showed the man really was pretty much utterly incompetent as far as F1 driving goes.

Q: Why did he crash?
A: He was going too slow - there was obviously WAY too little downforce generated, which would have provided the necessary traction for the car to not freaking spin off while GOING IN A STRAIGHT LINE. If this would have happened in the first corner, I wouldn't make such a big deal out of it - and I wager it's probably what Renault expected would happen - but he must have been instructed against this a hundred times, yet he still made the mistake. So yeah, epic fail.


written by EDD  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Too bad they don't have autolaunch this year.
I looks to me like he just gave it a little too much gas, maybe coming out of a gear shift. Lack of downforce would explain it if he lost it in a corner.

Give me the GT. It's sexy as hell, and a normal human can drive it.


written by grinter  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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*timeshift


written by punk225  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Adding video to channels (Timeshift) - requested by punk225.


written by siftbot  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Grinter is right, EDD is not.

F1 cars are capable of going straight slowly without spinning; otherwise this would happen to everyone at the start of every race, when they first start.

Most likely he mis-timed the shift. It's like when you are driving a normal car aggressively, and you dump the clutch at an RPM that's slightly too high, the tires will chirp. This can happen even if you're already moving, and just shifting to 2nd or 3rd gear. In a normal car it's not too bad, but when you have that high a power to weight ratio the rear end just snaps loose from the road and goes where it wants to.

Ever since they took traction control off the F1 cars, even the pros do this sometimes. Usually they're exiting a corner when they do it, but it's happened on a straight too.


written by NetRunner  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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^Grinter and NetRunner are right, EDD is not, and I'm a smartass


written by kulpims  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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^ What they say is true, and I admit I'm probably not F1-savvy enough, but I still think lack of downforce played a considerable part in what happened- just compare the acceleration off the line of both cars; the F1 0-100 acceleration time is smaller by a factor of roughly 2.2 when compared to that of the GT (Wiki says ~1.7 to 3.6), yet the sheik was barely overtaking the GT by the time he spun. So no, I'm fairly confident in saying that I still think he was going WAY too slow.


written by EDD  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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I'll chip in my non-expert opinion here. If he was going to slow, and it looks about 50-70mph then what happens routinely to F1 cars in this speed range when slowing down for corners?
I just think he fucked up with the gears or something else. Isn't lack of speed associated with insufficient revs leading to a stall?


written by Deano  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Incompetent F1 driver. Not much more to it.


written by gwiz665  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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WTF?? Lack of downforce?

Please explain to my why the fuck you need downforce to go in a straight line? Extra traction, so your tires don't spin? This is not a drag race.

It's a pretty simple concept, you can apply as much torque as you want to up until your tires spin out of control and you hit a wall. He was leaving rubber from spinning tires before he either shifted wrong, or stayed on the gas and rode it into the wall.

I drive rear wheel drive but without so much power. I believe F1 are not 4-wheel drive.


written by joedirt  | 6 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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See the crash in a little more detail in picture #28.


written by TickleMyElmo  | 6 months 1 week ago | CH
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*promote


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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Sunday, April 19th, 2009 7:34am PDT - promote requested by schmawy.


written by siftbot  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^kulpims:
^Grinter and NetRunner are right, EDD is not, and I'm a smartass


I also agree.

As a rallycross and autocross driver and instructor, I don't have a lick of F1 driving experience... but I know a bit about cars and handling.

This was a lack of experience with a VERY tricky class of car to drive. F1 cars are horrible beasts and extremely demanding. I would guess that one contributing factor (beyond lack of very fine throttle control by the driver) was that the tires were not yet warm.

F1 tires need to be warm. Very warm. Hot. You have to drive them hard to get them hot. Until then, they're not sticky. Whenever a driver pulls out onto the track, their tires are NOT up to optimal temperature. They have to carefully nurse the car through the first few corners, pushing hard enough to heat up the tires... not too hard, or they'll spin/slide... not too gentle, or they won't heat up the rubber.

It's a tough game.


written by rogueWRX  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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