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Does society really need the facade of religion as discussed by Socrates/Plato, or can we have our moral values sans religion?
Also, if that spanish guy was really the second coming of Jesus, I think I would have to become religious. He was pretty cool. I'm sure he was either crazy or just a good showman/con-artist, but still pretty cool.
On a side note, I've already edited this post 3 times to fix spelling and grammar errors that I noticed later. Smooth.
That was unbelievably shit. No not THE shit, just shit. *snip*
Yeah because Maher and Charles really were out to make a movie dedicated to effectively discrediting religion. No documentary is going to make the faithful change their mind about their beliefs. This movie was made to poke fun at them for the benefit of the non believers in the audience, just like Expelled was made so the faithful watching it could feel self-righteous.
Now if you want a good documentary illustrating the dangers of religion, watch Jesus Camp. It's fucking scary as shit, and the great part about it is that the "star" of the movie (the scary Rosie O'Donnell looking Jesus freak lady) thinks it's a great film for promoting her camp.
It could have had a lot more criticism and ridiculousness of various religions, maybe it was purposefully watered down so Bill Maher wouldn't be attacked by fanatics/nutjobs.
religion: because reality bites
religion: because god loves me more than you
religion: i like to kill
*promote
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It's a comedian doing a 'documentary' *brain explodes*
>> ^stephenfryftw:
oh mauz, I don't expect any of that. What I do expect from a movie that ostensibly seeks to provoke thought from the mind of its audience, is fucking honesty, that's what I expect. That, and maybe, just maybe, the assumption by the film maker that little old me, the viewer, just happens to be in possession of an attention span that ever so slightly exceeds the premature ejaculatory doomed coital duration of a freshman on his first post-game back-seat feel-up.
PS: VERY sad how this 'documentary' gets (and probably will get) more votes than all the real ones lolz
This is as much of a documentary as 'what the bleep do we know?' or 'the Secret'
argh stupid me, I mean stupid sifbot >_>
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I dont think that they set out to make a real documentary here. They are comedians and they take liberties within their craft to create moments that are funny. Mission accomplished as far as im concerned.
"Please do not post entire episodes of television shows or movies, unless you know beyond a shadow of a doubt they are in the public domain."
I think Bill might even approve of it, since he clearly states at the beginning that he understands people's need to have a religion, and that's it's only privilege of the privileged to choose not to have a religion. He's obviously aware of Sufi. Wonder why he didn't mention it.
Or Buddhism, for that matter, which is similar to Sufi in a lot of ways that Bill singled out as important.
#4 Please do not post entire episodes of television shows or movies, unless you know beyond a shadow of a doubt they are in the public domain.
That's what BitTorrent is for.
Either that rule needs to be removed from the FAQ or this and quite a few other videos must be discarded.
But do what you want with it, return or discard, I really don't care either way.
I say we let it stay until it's removed by Google.
Oh, and I've removed it from * documentaries, since it doesn't have much journalistic integrity. It is more like a bunch of weird clips.
Maher says himself from the start, that its an exploration of faith from his standpoint. What he believes and why he thinks it is dangerous in our time.
You people need to stop being self righteous about this being a documentary or not. Did you even watch it fully?
Maher says himself from the start, that its an exploration of faith from his standpoint. What he believes and why he thinks it is dangerous in our time.
It took the whole thread for someone to point that out?
I didn't like the movie all that much either but I didn't take it as anything other than Bill up there venting either, if I remember right he said he didn't expect to change any minds with it. Just to start conversations. Never even occurred to me to see it as a documentary rather than him up there venting a bit, an extended production of one of the same types of rants that you might see on his TV show. Either you like him or you don't, that isn't going to change much for doing it feature length instead of as a bit.
Some of the inserts were funny, othertimes they got in the way of a discussion I was enjoying (the 'maverick' from the Vatican)... but this movie is aimed fairly low because it runs with the pretty correct assumption that those who are atheists are, for the most part, of the more intelligent set, while the religious are the lower spectrum of education.
So aim low to try to get those who are religious to question, and if you miss those who already are not religious... what does it matter?
Also now i have to research Horus and the apparent laundry list of similarities to Jesus.
one thought - Bill's position regarding god is:
I don't know. But i choose to disbelieve and proselytize that disbelief to others.
How is that position morally or intellectually superior to:
I don't know. But i choose to believe and proselytize that belief to others.
Bill just "knows" he's Right? I think he planned the whole thing so he could smoke dope in Amsterdam.
The only point made that I could ruminate about is at the end when he states that when I take casual comfort in some belief in God, it comes at a terrible price. But I don't go to church, vote or make political contributions based on scripture, don't proselytize or persecute, and try not to let it color my opinions of others. So what harm am I doing by holding myself accountable to a greater power?
Maher doesn't make the distinction, but I don't think the casual comfort you are taking falls under what he is talking about since you are not supporting an "organized religion". Or perhaps you are in ways you don't realize it. If you label yourself a Christian to others, that supports organized Christian agendas, albeit in a very small way (think butterfly effect).
Most of his barbs are justifiably pointed at religious leaders, but there's some serious mocking of the individual believers as well. He does point out that atheism is a luxury for him, and he's right. I don't take it for granted that if I can live without God, I can do so because I've got love and guidance and belonging from people in my life, so I don't have any need for a magic Dad in the sky.
I think a lot of the time we accuse the faithful of intellectual laziness or ignorance without acknowledging that they are just trying to get what so many of us are fortunate to have.
For some serious bizness with not a hint of mockery, sadism or vulgarism towards religion, but plain ole Reason, i recommend this documentary from BBC4 called "Brief History of Disbelief". When I was told about it, I immediately sensed the win in it from the title. I imagine to not be the only one.
I think one of the things that Bill Maher didn't focus on was that every religion has different views on their authoritative word (Koran, the Bible, etc.). In Christianity, there are different denominations, reformed theology, and so on. But we also have to remember that it's a documentary from a comedian and so because the tone of the documentary, you have to take it as a fun/and slightly informative film.
One thing I did enjoy was the actual honesty from Bill Maher. He was probably the most genuine out of all the people interviewed.