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i'm a strong christian, but i still agree completely with this video. and i know sifters seem to hate religion so here ya go!
some swearing that's why i marked it nsfw
oh and i wanted to add it to the "opium of the masses" group but i don't know how. help?
some swearing that's why i marked it nsfw
oh and i wanted to add it to the "opium of the masses" group but i don't know how. help?
I live in a town with 1 bookstore, 13 bars, and 120 churches and it's about as backwards as backwards gets.
It's petty because neither side can prove their point. Yes they both have evidence, they both have a cannon they subscribe to, albeit different. What gets my gall is the Atheists or Religionists saying "I can prove it!" Bullshit. We each subscribe to a method for searching for truth. No one has any right to say "I know better then you." It's bogus.
What I know, I've learned from personal experiences. Some you wouldn't believe if I told you. And some I hold sacred, Those I will not share because of the mockery that would follow from those who hold the options of a religious man in contempt. And because they do not understand them, or can explain them.
My beef is with people telling others what they should believe. It's one thing to help someone understand your viewpoint. It's entirely different to compel them to it.
Most of the folks who express their religious distaste with the most gusto, have a long way to go towards authentic, healthy, actualization. Most folks (this includes fundies of any kind) don't even know what God is, concept of or personal relationship, notwithstanding.
Religion was created to answer the unexplainable through made up fairy tales in a time when science was unable to fill such space within the sphere of human knowledge and understanding.
Put simply. People need to justify their measly existence as 'common paupers' among the masses. The logical solution to satisfy everyone's need to justify their own existence and simply 'make one's self feel better' (ultimately a selfish goal), was to associate with an organized religion touting uniqueness in one's self and everlasting life in exchange for mental slavery. Thus, the masses immediately gave up their only remaining valuable asset. Their minds.. to those very cults. Simply to be absorbed, deluded, and ultimately prevented from true individual thought and self-expression. Instead, the practice of programmatic expression and group mindedness surpassed logic.
And YouTube slide shows are the worst. This is a live performance; it wasn't videotaped?
Over-simplified his argument would be, "can't we all just get along?"
" I am an atheist because i have never heard on the news, 76 atheists killed today in heavy shelling from the agnostics . "
well that and a belief that if god does in fact exist,which is slightly less likely than layoffs and the lottery , he's a total shithead.
But that mean the second point is correct ?
In fact, the Church hailed Stalin as "the divinely appointed leader of the nation." and has since officially apologized for that.
I say lets remove religion from the world so that we can take away at least that one huge label that serves to do a damn fine job of separating us into even more tribes than are already apparent. Would we find other reasons to kill each other? Sure we would, whether it be skin color, geography, economics, resources, whatever.
But even so, don't you think it would be worth it to remove inflexible dogma that only serves to make us fight and bicker over ancient stories and mythology just to lessen the number of reasons? It's even more ridiculous when you realize that the major monotheistic religions are really all based on the same God, and even worse that there's so much infighting within each of the religions on how their God should be properly worshiped. Sunni fighting Shia, Catholics fighting Protestants. Enough already!
Remove God(s) from the table and then, just maybe, we can actually get down to the business of getting past our other differences and then maybe we can all coexist.
I'm not an atheist at all and neither are any of my friends but damned if we don't all feel outnumbered and outgunned by the very types Brigstocke is talking about.
Plus, he's funny. Dawkins gets tiresome and Hitchens is seriously insulting to anyone who isn't a die-hard atheist.
Hey maybe in a couple of years we can all grow wings and fly too. I say the following because it is a true statement. Anytime someone with great worldly power has tried to remove religion from the world, it results in the death of millions and destruction of civilizations.
For as much bad as some would like to put on theists, there is abundant examples of how much good religion has done for the world. It's such a narrow and pessimistic thing to say: "Getting rid of religion would make the world a better place." Quite frankly, it's pure BS! You know it, I know it. And those who fail to admit it are too self-centered and too misinformed. People would still find ways to kill others without finding a justification in religion, it's just a handy scapegoat.
p.s. hooray for dialogue
p.p.s. no hooray for no real christians having anything to say.
I'll say though that extreme radicals in each religion are given the most press...hands down...by a landslide...without a doubt... which makes just about every religion look completely bums-up loonytoons. I'll say straight up that those people who hold those "GOD HATES [WHOEVER]" signs speak for no one but themselves and plainly haven't read or remotely understood their Bible. ALL the rest of us agree on that, and yet THEY get all the press and people cite them constantly as the "example" of the Christian, which is nonsense, plain as day. Meanwhile, those that honestly follow the Bible (for real) and contain a good bit of faith, but a good bit of reason as well are generally ignored by the media (and such) and wind up looking at the whole debate and getting horribly frustrated and depressed at the unfairness of it all. Personally I'm a career scientist and a Christian... and generally people--when they hear it--go "What? You must be a lousy Christian/scientist!" (you can pick which) Ridiculous! Not all of us have given the matter no thought. See C.S.Lewis, etc.
In rhyme with what has been commented here already, my "beef" is not with those who disapprove of my religious beliefs. My beef is with those who deliberately (or ignorantly) LIE about it in order to discredit it in a [conscious or unconscious] attempt to justify their philosophy. I'm not talking about revealing charlatans; that's fine. I'm not talking about revealing cults; that's fine. I'm talking about accusing a religion of being false or wrong based on only those charlatans and cults.
One more comment that I feel like mentioning:
An atheist will cite one religion after another for inciting war after war... and I will not argue with that. I will argue that the religious/spiritual belief system that a person chooses to believe is the single most important decision of his/her life. This is a decision that defines the character of a person and the purpose of his/her entire life. Naturally dissent here causes problems. Attempting to erase this dissent by erasing religion is identical to attempting to erase racial discrimination problems by eliminating all but one race... I don't think I need to say more about that...
Extreme radicals in anything are given the most press. Radicals sell. We're buying.
As for the clip - brilliant
Actually, fuck it.
if you want to bash religion and get me to upvote it anyway, here's how.