But then he raised taxes.

>> ^blankfist:
But then he raised taxes.


Aaawww, you spoiled the surprise!

He didn't just raise taxes. He instituted the single largest tax increase in American history.

Presidents do not raise taxes--Congress and States do, as well as, County and City.

In his defense he doesn't have much in the way of lips.

>> ^MrFisk:
Presidents do not raise taxes--Congress and States do, as well as, County and City.


Ok. So he blatantly lied and manipulated the public into thinking he had control over something that he didn't. Great, I feel so much better about him now.

Shouldn't this be in the *lies channel?

Adding video to channels (Lies) - requested by HaricotVert.

Is exploiting ignorance a worse fault than possessing it?
Warren E. Hale

Obama suckles form the same teat this motherfucker did...

>> ^MrFisk:
Presidents do not raise taxes--Congress and States do, as well as, County and City.


The President (executive branch) has VETO power over Congress (legislative branch). It's the whole point of "checks and balances". So, he DID have the power to NOT raise taxes.

I would assume that the point therealblankman is trying to make is that presidents do not follow their campaign promises...

...Or that all Bush's lie. either way, good point.

>> ^MrFisk:
Is exploiting ignorance a worse fault than possessing it?
Warren E. Hale


Yes. Malicious intent is worse than unintentional ignorance. Kind of like the difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder.

>> ^MrFisk:
Presidents do not raise taxes--Congress and States do, as well as, County and City.


But the president has the ability to veto any bill that contains tax increases, if he chooses to. When he made this promise, no one thought he was claiming to have control over local taxes, or the ability to enact federal legislation. At least no one with any understanding of how our system works.

Edit: Oops, didn't see spawnflagger's response due to how it truncates comments over 10 now. Seriously I hope they change that back.

Hah! Read. My. Typings. SHUT THE FUCK UP! If only we held them accountable for their lies.

He's using those CIA mind tricks.

"Fiscal Conservatives"

Ronald Reagan (R).......$200+ billion Deficit
George W. W. Bush (R)...$300+ Billion Deficit
George W. Bush, Jr (R)..$480+ Billion Deficit

"Tax & Spend Liberals"

Bill Clinton (D)........$200+ Billion SUPRPLUS

You know, if I wanted to see my goverment's budget balanced, and in line with the viewpoint that its OUR money that we are spending. Why, O'Lord, do idiots keep voting for republicans?!?!?!?!

Yeah, that health care bill will cost us $1 Trillion over a decade under Mr. Obama. But the Iraq war, costed Americans $500 billion over sixs years (that's $3 trillion dollars for the mathametically inept). And we didn't find any WMDs or Osama bin Laden (or his henchment that were supposively *IN* Iraq).

teat suckling turtle packers!

>> ^MrFisk:
Is exploiting ignorance a worse fault than possessing it?
Warren E. Hale


Yes.

>> ^choggie:
Obama suckles form the same teat this motherfucker did...


All governments do.

Like father like son, except Mom was the Quaker Oats guy.

They weren't new taxes, they were the same taxes but at a higher rate...

...gotta watch that politician talk.

>> ^mentality:
>> ^MrFisk:
Presidents do not raise taxes--Congress and States do, as well as, County and City.

Ok. So he blatantly lied and manipulated the public into thinking he had control over something that he didn't. Great, I feel so much better about him now.


He had veto power, so I don't believe he was intentionally misleading the public into thinking he had the direct ability to raise taxes or not. It's that he alluded to vetoing any tax increase but did not when the time came.