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melodyne,Direct Note Access,not midi,polyphonic,chord shift,this is BIG Pitch correction like you've never seen (or heard)

Pitch correction like you've never seen (or heard)

posted by fissionchips 1 year 8 months ago • 13720 views
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Many of you probably know of Autotune, which corrects the pitch of a singer's vocals in real time. Melodyne has gone even further now. They found a way to separate the harmonics of each note in a chord, allowing individual notes to be manipulated at will. Simply amazing, even if you're not an audio geek.

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I really hope this makes top 15, but I think it's too niche...


written by MarineGunrock  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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We'll see MG, this is some groundbreaking technology here. The ramifications for the music industry are huge.


written by fissionchips  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Great, now we'll be enabling even MORE no talent hacks to become rich and famous just because they have nice tits.


written by uhohzombies  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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u.o.zombies, and that's bad how?


written by fissionchips  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Just read about this on SA. Good find, this is seriously awesome stuff. I'd play around with it, and I'm not even a music guy.


written by cheesemoo  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Holy crap!


written by nibiyabi  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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honestly, vocal pitch correction isn't new technology, so i don't see this causing us to have MORE talentless hacks out there than we already do. however, this is an amazing studio tool for independent producers. i wonder what fantastic amount of money they're selling it for.


written by youmakekittymad  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Prices range between $199 for the most basic version, to $699 for the ultra-deluxe super-whizbang edition. Prices and a feature comparison chart for the different editions can be found here.


written by cheesemoo  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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There's no doubt that this is cool, but does anyone think that making music like this is cheating? I'm not a musician, but I kind of look at similarly to how uhohzombies does. Any crappy musician who knows how to work this software will be able to sound like a virtuoso. I realize it doesn't mean that they'll be able to write music any better, but the finished product will certainly sound more professional.

None of that takes away from how impressive this technology is, however.


written by CaptWillard  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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I don't really see "cheating" as an issue here. For me, the end product is all I care about. Can't sing? No worries, just don't try and get me to come to your live show.

(I'm looking at you, DragonForce.)


written by cheesemoo  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Impressive. It reminds me that computers have done so much to change the way we see things (CGI, and animation) and hear things. Why are they so lacking in the other senses?

When are we going to get some software that makes interesting shapes for us to feel- or super realistic programmable smells.


written by dag  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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There's no doubt that this is cool, but does anyone think that making music like this is cheating?

Not really; no more than an artist overdubbing their own tracks to create a fuller sound, and that has been happening for decades.

As cheesemo says, it's the end product that counts. This is simply a tool that will make production easier and cheaper, as less time will be spent perfecting. That's a good thing for independent artists that don't have large amounts of cash to fund their production and end up releasing sub-standard material, or don't release it at all.

Of course, the tools are open to abuse but that is also true of the tools that are around today anyway.

None of that takes away from how impressive this technology, however.

Very much so!


written by antonye  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Forget about the music industry, what this'll enable independent artists and bedroom producers to do is *outstanding*


written by Irishman  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Perhaps some individuals have musical ideas that they cannot express because they lack the ability to physically create them with instuments. Besides in the end, quality will dictate the lifespan of peoples creations. Does it really matter where the art comes from?


written by Rotty  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Wow, unbelievable!


written by Mezzanine  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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wow.


written by rottenseed  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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This is really amazing. This offers enormous benefit to everyone interested in music from raw beginners curious about chords to home recorders laying down their own tracks. Would love to play with this, but unfortunately music plug ins are extremely expensive so I doubt I ever will.


written by Skoll  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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I am completely impressed.


written by oohahh  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Yeah its neat... but whatever happened to PLAYING the music on an actually instrument, live, with human hands?

While this is amazing technologically, it encourages production of even more 'formulaic re-mixed' trash (in my opinion) music rather than anything truly original.

Just my opinion of course.


written by honkeytonk73  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Well, there's good remixes and there's bad remixes.

There's good live music and there's bad live music.

I don't see how it matters how the good music gets made, just as long as it's good.

Bad music will be ignored as usual.


written by cheesemoo  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Extraordinarily impressive. I hadn't heard of Autotune, but even that is pretty amazing.


written by Xax  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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>> ^MarineGunrock:
I really hope this makes top 15, but I think it's too niche...


I guess I was wrong.


written by MarineGunrock  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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>> ^honkeytonk73:
Yeah its neat... but whatever happened to PLAYING the music on an actually instrument, live, with human hands?


I don't have any hands, you insensitive clod!

>> ^cheesemoo:
Bad music will be ignored
top the charts as usual.

Fixed that for ya.


written by xxovercastxx  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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I thought the piano loop with the 'wrong' note sounded a lot better than the corrected version.

Cool program though. I agree in that it will require less technical skill if you can just fix it afterwards but for non-improvised music, it's really the way the artist envisioned it that counts more than how well they executed that vision.

*clip* nevermind, saw what I was looking for.


written by AeroMechanical  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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AeroM, "real-time" just means a latency of < 10ms or so. A powerful enough processor is all you'd need to make it work.
That said, this is far more powerful as an editing tool. In order to use it in a live situation you would need a comparison track, removing much of the opportunity for improvisation. *insert pop musician joke here*


written by fissionchips  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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This could open the door for some interesting memes for sure

oh, and I suppose it could be mildly useful for music production too


written by residue  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Totally cool clip and technology, but the way the announcer said MIDI made me want to throttle him. Is it just me? Do people say mee-dee?


written by bellman  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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the medium is the message ! ? !


written by Red  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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As far as I can tell, the theory really isn't that impressive. They seem to be bandpass filtering using a bunch of bins, and splitting the output among separate tracks.
The interface, on the other hand, is awesome!


written by grinter  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Melodyne killed the Pop star.

No but seriously the pop music of today is killing legal music sales, this will only enable ordinary people with just as much talent as the "stars" to manipulate their way to good music without support of BadMusic Inc.

Live performances is what you pay for! Not digitally enhanced tunes of teenagers singing about their boyfriends and how slutty they are.
At least the metal heads have got this right.

/rant


written by Abducted  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Altering pitches to accommodate amateur singers has been around for a while (remember the New Kids on the Block?). This just takes it to another, easier level.


written by doremifa  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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this guy looks like hugh jackman in 20 years


written by E_Nygma  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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It's like Photoshop for audio!


written by MarineGunrock  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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I believe it was Brian Eno who declared that DJ's are the only remaining artists. This just reinforces that.


written by nosro  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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I personally would like to welcome our new golden-semen-spewing sound-altering Jerry-Garcia-wannabe overlords.


written by Payback  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Wow.

Wowie.

I love technology.


written by kingsblood  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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I don't think this will create more no-talent hacks - it just promotes the balance of talent to shift behind the microphone. And whether it's luck, talent, or technology, if it produces something worth listening to - then I'm glad it's there.


written by ReverendTed  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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And, upvote for the Pink Floyd "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" riff rip at about 3:45. Oh, yea, and Direct Note Access . . . DNA. Which is what you're messing with here. You get to play with the DNA of the song. Nice.


written by silvercord  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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sweet, i can't wait to see what experimental musicians will be able to come up with utilizing this.


written by 8296  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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*viral


written by jwray  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Adding video to channels (Viral) - requested by jwray.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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If anything I'd say this allows more musicians to appear. Just because they aren't a master at some instrument doesn't mean their vision of it is any less artistic.


written by raddishs  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Pitch correction lets me play my recorded songs to my friends without them becoming nauseated. It's much cheaper than hiring a singer. Some very talented songwriters, (myself not included), are not great vocalists. Jimmy Webb and Randy Newman come to mind.
But, it sucks when a pitch-corrected vocalist is sold as a performer. Ashley Simpson on SNL comes to mind. If you need pitch correction in the studio, you had better be offering up some talent besides your voice to an audience.


written by 8777  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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Looks like it lets you set bin off certain sizes of a channels spectragram, then drag those bins around to manipulate harmonics or simultaneously played notes. Would be hard to use if didn't have clean, isolated samples. Would be silly to use if you didn't really want a super-clean sound.

Nice simple interface. I'm going to look around for tutorials.

Oh, I see that Grinter came to a similar conclusion... good times!


written by bamdrew  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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>> ^uhohzombies:
Great, now we'll be enabling even MORE no talent hacks to become rich and famous just because they have nice tits.



Look up some early pink floyd interviews, and you will feel differently about that.

You, can use this to make your old job easier, r use it to make your work even moreso complexed, musical tools, especially this one, can only help the artist express what is inside. maybe you should look up what talent means, you can be pop AND talented! It doesn't happen very often but it does, if it didn't we would all shoot ourselves in the face.


written by 10040  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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$699 for the ultra-deluxe super-whizbang edition
*downloading now


written by choggie  | 1 year 8 months ago | CH
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The Melodyne dimension. Which season of Doctor Who was that?


written by harry  | 1 year 7 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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Very interesting. Well produced video as well; his voice is kind of hypnotic.


written by pmkierst  | 1 year 7 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^MarineGunrock:
I really hope this makes top 15, but I think it's too niche...


I guess I was wrong.


REALLY wrong. Good for you, nuke chips.


written by MarineGunrock  | 1 year 7 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> Good for you, nuke chips.

Thanks. 200 is the new 100.


written by fissionchips  | 1 year 7 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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*engineering


written by oxdottir  | 1 year 7 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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Adding video to channels (Engineering) - requested by oxdottir.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 7 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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incredible... stop saying MEEDY though... MID-DEE


written by deathcow  | 1 year 4 weeks ago | CH
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I watch this every so often, and it still blows my mind every time.


written by jrbedford  | 10 months 1 week ago | CH
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