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An 11-year-old town of Weston, Wisconsin, girl died Sunday from a treatable form of diabetes after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical treatment, Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin said this afternoon.
Vergin said the girl's parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, believe she died because they apparently didn't have enough faith.
Members of the Neumann family operate Monkey Mo coffee shop in Weston, and a sign on the business' window today said it had been closed "due to a family emergency."
The child's aunt from California asked police to respond to the home to check on her niece, Madeline Neumann, Vergin said. Neumann then was taken by ambulance to Saint Clare's Hospital where she was pronounced dead.
Vergin said the cause of death was diabetic ketoacidosis, which develops when a person has too little insulin in their body. Left untreated, diabetic ketoacidosis might cause a person to lose consciousness and die, according the Mayo Clinic Web site.
Vergin said Madeline, who went by her middle name, Kara, had probably been ill for about 30 days, suffering symptoms like nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.
"It is our understanding that instead of seeking medical help, they chose to pray over her and their faith would heal her," Vergin said.
"She got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he told The Associated Press.
He said the family has no ties to a specific church or religion. "They have a little Bible study of a few people."
Police will continue to investigate Neumann's death and forward their findings to the Marathon County district attorney's office to determine if a crime was committed, Vergin said.
A telephone message left at the Neumann home by the Wausau Daily Herald was not immediately returned today.
Vergin said the girl had not seen a doctor since age 3. Police have not had contact with her family in the past.
The girl had attended Riverside Elementary School in the D.C. Everest School District during the first semester but didn't return for the second semester.
The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.
"They are still in the home," Vergin said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."
Kathy Ziembo, an advanced practice registered nurse for Aspirus Wausau Hospital, said diabetic ketoacidosis is a treatable condition that the hospital helps patients with several times a week.
"You know if there is something wrong," Ziembo said.
A shortage of insulin causes the body to break down fat, which produces toxic acids known as ketones, Ziembo said. Treatment generally takes a few days in the hospital as patients are given insulin intravenously and fluids are replaced, she said.
People with Type 1 diabetes are at the highest risk of developing diabetic ketoacidosis, according to the Mayo Clinic. Type 1 diabetes in children typically develops as a genetic condition that requires insulin treatments.
Type 2 diabetes patients are able to generate some insulin, but not enough. Type 2 typically develops as the result of a health issue and is often preventable, according to doctors.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/28/wprayer128.xml
I normally dislike Nancy Grace, but this kind of negligence is inexcusable. The issue here isn't freedom of religion, but the denying of medical care to their daughter.
An 11-year-old town of Weston, Wisconsin, girl died Sunday from a treatable form of diabetes after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical treatment, Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin said this afternoon.
Vergin said the girl's parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, believe she died because they apparently didn't have enough faith.
Members of the Neumann family operate Monkey Mo coffee shop in Weston, and a sign on the business' window today said it had been closed "due to a family emergency."
The child's aunt from California asked police to respond to the home to check on her niece, Madeline Neumann, Vergin said. Neumann then was taken by ambulance to Saint Clare's Hospital where she was pronounced dead.
Vergin said the cause of death was diabetic ketoacidosis, which develops when a person has too little insulin in their body. Left untreated, diabetic ketoacidosis might cause a person to lose consciousness and die, according the Mayo Clinic Web site.
Vergin said Madeline, who went by her middle name, Kara, had probably been ill for about 30 days, suffering symptoms like nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.
"It is our understanding that instead of seeking medical help, they chose to pray over her and their faith would heal her," Vergin said.
"She got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he told The Associated Press.
He said the family has no ties to a specific church or religion. "They have a little Bible study of a few people."
Police will continue to investigate Neumann's death and forward their findings to the Marathon County district attorney's office to determine if a crime was committed, Vergin said.
A telephone message left at the Neumann home by the Wausau Daily Herald was not immediately returned today.
Vergin said the girl had not seen a doctor since age 3. Police have not had contact with her family in the past.
The girl had attended Riverside Elementary School in the D.C. Everest School District during the first semester but didn't return for the second semester.
The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.
"They are still in the home," Vergin said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."
Kathy Ziembo, an advanced practice registered nurse for Aspirus Wausau Hospital, said diabetic ketoacidosis is a treatable condition that the hospital helps patients with several times a week.
"You know if there is something wrong," Ziembo said.
A shortage of insulin causes the body to break down fat, which produces toxic acids known as ketones, Ziembo said. Treatment generally takes a few days in the hospital as patients are given insulin intravenously and fluids are replaced, she said.
People with Type 1 diabetes are at the highest risk of developing diabetic ketoacidosis, according to the Mayo Clinic. Type 1 diabetes in children typically develops as a genetic condition that requires insulin treatments.
Type 2 diabetes patients are able to generate some insulin, but not enough. Type 2 typically develops as the result of a health issue and is often preventable, according to doctors.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/28/wprayer128.xml
I normally dislike Nancy Grace, but this kind of negligence is inexcusable. The issue here isn't freedom of religion, but the denying of medical care to their daughter.
But damn, I can't stand Nancy Grace.
Did I mention that I can't stand Nancy Grace?
Because I can't stand Nancy Grace.
Nancy Fucking Grace.
Can't stand her.
Now, there are many people who say that 'Not everything new is good you know', and 'people of days of yore had a better idea of how to live', and in some ways they can be right (the constant scrambling for more consumer items etc.).
BUT, when we have come so far in treating so many things that people needlessly used to die from, such as this, why would you turn your back on the advances and in doing so KILL YOUR CHILD.
How could you live with yourself as parents knowing that you'd KILLED YOUR CHILD because of some ridiculous belief that scientifically proven medical help wasn't good enough for your daughter. As a father I find it unthinkable to not do everything in your power to help your child.
Man, how many different effects and filters can they apply to ONE PHOTO... you could just leave it there, static... but no... today we can't have a static image on screen, let's keep it moving, changing colour, having 'aging effects' applied to it... man, just ridiculous.
And, I've never seen this woman host, but OH MY GOD she is annoying... Over the top, interrupting, loud, obnoxious, self important... ARGH, I can see the problem with dispersing a piece from her show, as it is indeed promoting an obnoxious woman.
The case is of course another case of religion vs. reason, and sadly religion won.
And yeah, I really can't stand to hear her voice for too long.
List of cases like this one
and don't they know that if they went to church, they'd know HOW to pray for a miracle correctly?
Plain and simple.
Upvote, even though I can't stand that nitwit Nancy Grace.
Amen, brotha! Seriously, does she really need to act like such a beeyotch to everyone? Even people on her own team?
And yes, somebody please send Nancy Grace to Iraq.
The best is when she made that woman kill herself. How is she still on the air.
how is nancy grace's personality inspiring greater indignation than this story?
Possibly because although the story is horrific, between school shootings and political unrest and war overseas, we have become accustomed to horror. We want a way to overcome horror, we want others to show us how to become greater than ourselves, and we want rise to the challenges. When instead we see people confronted with horror abandoning their duty and telling others what to believe instead of trusting them to make their own decisions, it makes us extremely angry.
My two cents, anyways. If I had my bronze star, I would have downvoted this; although the story is horrible, the reporting is sickening and should not be encouraged. There are other news outlets that broke this story, and did so more responsibly.
Suspending rational belief, despite having far off relatives request that you seek medical attention is more then ignorance, it's willful ignorance which leads to death. Children are wards, not property, they can not be disposed of at will. Parents have a, perfectly reasonable, legal obligation to do what a reasonable person would do to promote and protect the wellbeing of their children. If these people didn't do that, then leaving their other children with them is the criminal negligence of the rest of society as well.
If you don't think the government has any place defending peoples right to not be killed, what exactly is it's function?
This story is a terrible thing that has happened millions of times in the past.
At least the dead girl won't indoctrinate her own children with the same bullshit.
That TDS clip was the first, and until now only, time I heard about this repulsive woman. Hopefully, this is the last.
and on that farm they had some flakes
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