Olbermann comment on Hillary's RFK statement

Olbermann rips Hillary Clinton a new one for her RFK comment and lists all the things for which we've forgiven her (I counted 18). The good stuff starts at 7:13.
doremifasays...

This guy is LAME. Sure, I share his politics but he is ridiculous. Watching this on television I found myself telling him to shut the f**k up. What is up this guy's ass? Megalomaniac who uses the Edward R Murrow line at the end as if he is in the same league. Olbermann is all commentary... like O'Reilly.

10949says...

I can agree that some people may see his presentation as a bit "dramatic," but megalomaniacal? Unless we see some video evidence of him stating how important and great he himself is, I don't think you can conclude that. Otherwise, I think you would have to admit that anyone who stated an opinion in a dramatic way is a megalomaniac. As for using Murrow's line, well, yeah it probably is a bit presumptuous.

Anyway, I realized after Jon Stewart's appearance on Crossfire that if I was ever going to get anything useful out of these talking-heads shows, I would have to separate the people from the message. In other words, if you had to read what he said, rather than hear him say it, you might think of it differently. In this regard, and in this instance, I think this Olbermann comment (from 7:13 onward) is brilliant.

doremifasays...

He skirts from comical to angry and I have had a difficult time taking this guy seriously when he intends to be. From blah-smirky-chuckle to raising his voice, addressing the camera makes me shudder to think what this guy's intentions are. And when he builds up a poorly executed statement from Clinton into an false encouragement to assassinate Obama, me thinks Olbermann a megalomaniac, a partial, Dr. Jeckel/Mr. Hyde kind.

When Jim Lehrer or Judy Woodruff starts commenting into the camera or if CSPAN mornings has someone who talks back to the callers then I will have to start watching BBC News for unbias U.S. news.

10949says...

Points taken. My left eyebrow (the one that detects oddities) raised when I noticed the weird pivoting from camera to camera, i.e. say something, look down, shake head, look at new camera, say something, look down, shake head, ... etc.

10949says...

>> ^jwray:
Olbermann is being ridiculous. Those remarks were not even remotely offensive.


To the general populace (i.e. you and me), it comes off as the unintended screwup, but to people who are entrenched in government, it comes off as a very calculated comment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating that one ought to swallow everything that people "in the know" feed us on the news streams, but nor should one disregard expert (and I use that word hesitantly) testimony.

I think it's a brilliant piece of work by Clinton. I'm sure she knows what she's saying and doing, having been in politics for so long. Knowing that, you can't ignore her statement as just an unintended screwup. That's what it boils down to.

NetRunnersays...

>> ^doremifa:
He skirts from comical to angry and I have had a difficult time taking this guy seriously when he intends to be.


I'm a fan of Olbermann's, but I have to agree that the massive shifts in tone during his show seem jarring. One minute he's joking around, the next he's serious as a heart attack. They used to always have celebrity news in the hour, and that was so incongruous with the rest of the show that it just came across as being distasteful, and I'm glad they've finally dropped that entirely.

I also have to say I was a bit puzzled how Olbermann would turn a sub-30 second soundbite into an 11-minute special comment. Something about this really got him angry -- I've watched most of his special comments, and I'd swear he was more angry in this one than he'd ever been before.

As someone who's watched the show for a long time, I'll also say that I'm pretty sure Olbermann started the primary season as a big fan of Hillary Clinton. I can tell you exactly when that changed: when she teared up before the New Hampshire primary, and then immediately launched into an attack on Obama.

Starting from that very episode, he stopped being mostly neutral in the primary, to being very heavily anti-Clinton, and when Edwards dropped out just a couple weeks later, very pro-Obama.

I think he's pissed because he's looked up to the Clintons since the 90's, and they are disappointing him in massive fashion by taking up the Karl Rove and George Bush type of politics that his whole show is dedicated to highlighting and debunking.

It's also because these sorts of things damage the party as a whole, and given what's at stake in this election, and given how little chance she has of winning, he's shocked at the megalomania of Hillary still fighting, and fighting dirty.

If it weren't for the other instances of her using this construction as an argument for her to stay in the race, and for the fact that Bill Clinton had the nomination locked up in April, not June, I would've said "what's the big deal?" myself. Instead all that shows that she really did intend to raise the specter of assassination, her only gaffe was that she used the harsher wording, still including the word "assassinated."

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