Mythbusters - Thermite vs Ice

Mythbusters test if thermite and ice explode.
pho3n1xsays...

not to go all psuedo-scientist or anything but...

couldn't it have been caused by the molten aluminum/other metals melting the ice so fast that it instantly converted to steam, and the insane expansion rate caused the explosion?

i mean, that's the same thing that happened in the video where the 2 kids are pouring molten aluminum into an ingot cast, this is just on a much bigger (and faster) scale... isn't it?

butt3rnutssays...

pho3n1x hit the nail on the head. I was a personal witness to the same type of reaction in an art school metal casting class. A classmate of mine didn't properly dry his mold before the casting. Once the 1300+ degree liquid aluminum hit the tiny pool of water in the bottom the whole thing exploded. If the mold hadn't been 3/4 buried in a sand pit before hand we would have been in trouble

I'd suspect an even better reaction by suspending the thermite above a bucket of water, which would result in a quicker conversion to steam due to the lowered energy required and the greater surface area.

Enzobluesays...

The aerosolizing theory sounds plausible to me. Lots of things ignite that way, I've personally blown a ball of fire with a mouthful of corn starch and I hear sugar and flour work too. A mouthful of thermite, (as if), would be insane.

Gaposays...

The water gets vaporized extremely fast because of the very high heat of the burning thermite. 1 liter of water turns into 1700 liters of steam nearly immediately. You get the idea why you see an explosion.
It's the same thing as if you would try to extinct a grease fire with water. NEVER EVER DO IT!

KamikazeCricketsays...

This is why caldera volcanoes such as Yellowstone are so explosive. Water seeps down and contacts the shallow magma chamber causing a rapid increase in chamber pressure by the volatilization of the water and other fluids. This pressure builds fast until the pressure exceeds that of the roof crust of the caldera. In this case the walls of ice and the bucket on top created a sort of pressure chamber in the middle which allowed for the buildup and explosion.

ReverendTedsays...

On the one hand, I'm on board with the idea that "this is similar to the ingot burst", but I disagree that you'd get an even more spectacular result with a bucket of water, as butt3rnuts suggests.

I disagree because I've done that, and it just liberates a lot of steam.

In my case, the setup was a pot of thermite that poured into (well, through) a coffee can of water and then down into a large beaker of water and sand.

As an aside, the glass formed as the thermite contacts the sand is a pretty neat souvenir.

siftbotsays...

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