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Michael Moore - Norway (Too good for SiCKO)

posted by BicycleRepairMan

1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago • 7484 views

tags: norway, healthcare, prison, crime, wealth, liberal, conservative, moore

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As a Norwegian, I cant help but posting this, yeah yeah, its a rosy picture, but its funny.

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Oh, the Norwegian Supreme Court is right.

written by Krupo

| 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH

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Don't you guys have like, very socialistic values and high taxes and stuff? I hear it's the opposite of Netherland xD

BTW, not voting cuz I just don't like Michael Moore, even though he's right about the issues.

written by legacy0100

| 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH

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there is tax on everything. absolutely everything. (but less tax on stuff that is healthy and good for you.)
i think a very central idea in social democracy is that we are together responsible for each other, absolutely every single one of our fellow citizens. and that will be at the cost of values that are more prominent where the individual is the focus seperate from the rest of the people.

that backside is that a system like that can be exploited. (but which system cant when you know how). so putting it in a very simplified way: it's a choice of do you want to care about everyone and take the cost of that, or do you want to "look after #1".

written by lavoll

| 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH

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Norway rocks

written by eric3579

| 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH

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One of the things about living here, is how do I present a fair, balanced view of what its really like..? This clip mentions a few major upsides, and on the whole, it isnt wrong, per se, but is there any major downsides and misery that goes on in Norway that doesnt get a mention here? Well, after thinking about it; not really, I mean lets face it, we've got murders, we've got stealing, we've got drug addicts, our healthcare isnt perfect, taxes, gas prices, and more importantly, beer prices are sky-high, but overall, are any of these things really paralyzing to our society? Do these things invalidate the progress shown in this video? No. Overall, we score on "Highest standard of living" for a reason, its because it really is good. So what causes it? Oil? Well, there is no denying that oil has made this nation filthy rich, and I guess any nation has the right to envy us that.. But look at our neighbor, Sweden, admittedly, they do have less money overall, but they arent doing to bad, infact, in a global perspective, they are just about equal to Norway, and also, from a global perspective, their politics are basically the same.

one of the most often cited delusions from the US perspective on our whole "social democracy" model, is that we are drowning in taxes.. and my answer to that, is simply, "have you thought this through ?" I mean our high taxes have basically one major downside, outsourcing, and that hasnt killed us yet. What most americans seems to think is that if they pay more taxes, their private economy collapses, but why should it? even if every american paid 40% taxes, if EVERYBODY did it, it wouldnt really matter, because wages would go up etc.. the whole point is to find a stable, sustainable model with the potential for growth. If it helps you and your country it doesnt matter whether you pay 5%, 30% or 80% taxes, the important thing is the balance towards good results.. Its simple scare tactics to say that "THEY will take YOUR money", it just doesnt work like that.

written by BicycleRepairMan

| 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH

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I agree with bicycle Repair Guy, even though he and I have argued about evolution and natural selection previously. Social Democracy does create a better situation for most citizens. Canada is moving away from Social Democracy, and things are getting worse and worse. Look at Alberta's oil sands project, immense opportunities for wealth, and yet, more homelessness, crumbling infrastructure, expensive jails, unsustainable. At least the trickle-up-effect is working great, the rich get richer while everyone else gets poorer. And the rich make up around 5 percent of the populous... maybe less

written by Peroxide | 1 year 11 months 2 weeks ago | CH

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1 year maternity leave? In Sweden it's 50 days before and 450 days after birth for mommys OR daddys...

written by conan | 1 year 11 months 2 weeks ago | CH

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HAHA! this is very rosy, it gives a funny perspective on how Moore works. How come he didn´t film this in November?

But it´s no lie. Just rosy. I have spent some time in hospitals, and i have thought more than once about how good it is that this can´t cost more than the norwegian eq. of 296 USD.

If Norway was inflicted with private health care, my right hand would probably have been amputated (im not joking). I think leaving the health of people in the hands of market economy is really f***ed.

I have been in a swedish hospital too. They let me stay there eventhough i wasn´t hurt, gave me a bed and food and everything so i could stay with my injured friends.

Taxes are no problem, i love the consept. But the politicians who decide where the taxes go can be a problem.

written by Tupho | 1 year 11 months 2 weeks ago | CH

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Fun fact: Right now i´m on the can with my laptop, saving mother earth