Mentally Handicapped Man Wins the Battle, But Loses the War
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Stumble ThisA mentally handicapped man kicks a small boy after the kid's volume distracts his cell phone call. The boy's father doesn't seem too pleased.
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My version of the dialogue:
Handi-capable youngin': I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles! Oh look! I have a ring ring on my phony phone! Hello? I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles!
Kid: Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay!
Handi-capable youngster: Turtles are not gay! Well, some of them might be, but most of them are neat-o! You doo-doo head! I kick you now!
Father: GET THESE MOTHERFUCKING TURTLES OUT MY MOTHERFUCKING PLANE! *punch*
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My version of the dialogue:
Handi-capable youngin': I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles! Oh look! I have a ring ring on my phony phone! Hello? I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles!
Kid: Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay!
Handi-capable youngster: Turtles are not gay! Well, some of them might be, but most of them are neat-o! You doo-doo head! I kick you now!
Father: GET THESE MOTHERFUCKING TURTLES OUT MY MOTHERFUCKING PLANE! *punch*
Maybe someone else can finish. tee hee.
Fuck that. If someone kicked my kid I'd knock his teeth out.
Then you're going to raise a shitty, shitty kid.
Look, I can fully understand the reaction to you kid being hurt... BUT, do you really want your kid to see that the way to treat someone like this is to knock them down? Yeah, that's going to leave a really good impression on the kid for how to handle conflict. If instead you move in just as quickly, but move the guy away from your kid and then ask him why he did what he did, and how was it in any way appropriate to kick your kid... ask him that, get him to understand what he did was wrong, ask him to come over and apologise to your kid... make your kid see the right way to handle things like this, not knock him down.
You show a kid that the way his dad solves things is to hit people to the ground, you've just left a seriously deep imprint on him as to how he should handle things. I wouldn't be surprised if the dad gets a call about his kid hitting others at school... 'But, my dad did it!'.
Violence should not begat violence, show there are better, more respectful ways of handling these things, and on top of that you can discuss with him afterwards about mental issues and why you have to understand not all people know how to handle things in the right way.
He is standing directly over the child looking down on him... the fathers response was not one of vengence... but of protection...
I don't begrudge what he did at all... there is no time to talk it out... A responsible parent can explain afterwards what happened was not ideal... And there are better ways of handling problems...
The father just saw his child assualted by a stranger and then standing over him in a position to do it again should he chose. What your saying makes sense... but in the fraction of a second he had NO way of knowing why this man was kicking his child or what he might do next...
I would take it a step further and say the fathers instincts were SPOT on with protecting their child. That should be his first priority, ending the threat to his child, and i can't begrudge him that...
Then the talking could commence.
So, I DO completely understand the reaction, and know it comes from a protective place, just wish that people weren't so quick to applaud violence as a correct reaction to such things, especially in front of a child.
What I see is a retarded man who is distracted and on his cellphone, then out of the corner of his eye he sees someone/something charging at him and he puts his foot out to stop it to make sure that thing doesn't invade his personal space.
The way the Father responded was completely out of line.
Something Charging At him? The kid ran up to the counter to eagerly get a burger, thats hardly charging at him. as far as putting out his foot to make sure he didn't invade his personal space... are you retarded? he walked four steps up to the kid, and kicked him. you don't need sound to see that. I'm not sticking up for the father either, the other kid was obviously retarded and decking him wasn't the best choice in the world... I mean seriously, if you can't go out in public without kicking and punching people around you... maybe you should just stay at home, that goes for the both of them.
Though, if someone kicked my little kid for no reason, i really can't say what i'd do.
p.s. I upvoted because I believe that honest dipictions of violence need to be seen. Anyone who views this and is disturbed by it is probably better at handling conflict than anyone who just says 'right on'. We need this kind of discourse about violence.
Dependable father? With the absence of mental control displayed here, it's just as likely he'll skip out on the kid before he turns 8.
There is nothing at all positive about this video. Downvote.
This reasoning puzzles me. I think some videos deserve to be sifted because they're so terrible.
Also, I'm laughing at the argument over morality you guys are engaged in. Funny, funny stuff.
If you think the father should have acted with restraint, then you seem to be missing the point of instinctual actions. Bears are gentle, loving creatures, until they think you're attacking their young. Then they swipe their paw at you and leave you in a heap of skin and hanging flesh from bone.
I am a pacifist, but if I perceived someone was hurting my child, I'd probably knock them out, too.
Oh, and I posted this because I thought it was absolutely HILARIOUS to see Forrest Gump get knocked out. So sue me.
TIMMY!
Handi-capable youngin': I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles! Oh look! I have a ring ring on my phony phone! Hello? I like turtles I like turtles I like turtles!
Kid: Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay! Turtles are gay!
Handi-capable youngster: Turtles are not gay! Well, some of them might be, but most of them are neat-o! You doo-doo head! I kick you now!
Father: GET THESE MOTHERFUCKING TURTLES OUT MY MOTHERFUCKING PLANE! *punch*
Depending on which state they were in the guy was lucky to not have been shot.
People take serious offense to an assault on a child, rightly so, this was misdemeanor assault. Followed up with aggravated assault.
On second thought... maybe they both had aggravated assault: See bold text.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault
Before you say he did not cause bodily injury to any one then read the first part of number one. An attempt to is the same as in the eyes of the law.
I wonder if the ones blaming the father would do that if he was white...
Was race really something that everyone noticed immediately? I honestly had to go back and watch again to see what you were talking about.
>> ^Smugglarn:
I wonder if the ones blaming the father would do that if he was white...
the father isn't watching real life events with a title over the top stating "mentally handicapped guy just kicked my child"
he is reacting with what little information that he has: a stranger just kicked his young son.
And if you look at the clock he has 1 second to indentify that a man just kicked his child (son,brother,nephew, a child)and then stand over him in a position to do it again...
one second simply does not allow for enough time to work through a precise way of resolving this issue by using 'just enough' force... it doens't allow you to identify the man as possibly being handicap (I mean we are assuming he is from the title, but looking at him is hardly definitive)... and one second is certianly not enough to think of the exact amount of force required to seperate your son and the man you just saw kick him... And looking at it with 20/20 without a fraction of the emotion a father or relative would feel...
I don't know... it's just to easy to throw this man under the buss 'after the fact'.
kids are intelligent enough to know the difference between attacking and defending. it's not like the guy kicked him in the balls on the floor or something.
as for the mentally handicapped thing, well that's not really a full diagnosis is it. and anyway, i would think it makes it more reasonable to take violent action to stop the attack, if you suspect the attacker is not ... let's say... predictable.
^I mean seriously, if you can't go out in public without kicking and punching people around you... maybe you should just stay at home, that goes for the both of them.
Amen to that.
I'm willing to bet my life savings that if it were a cop throwing the punch in this vid.....
Oh, you mean a trained professional who knows how to deal with these situations, can act calmy under pressure, is not related to the victim of the attack, and is paid to serve the community...
I see the comparison.
The father here has a split second to decide how much of a threat this stranger that kicked his son is, and how to stop the threat. Erring on the side of caution DOES NOT mean using the least force possible, it means using as much force as necessary to ensure the VICTIM is protected.
his is a good example to the kid of when force is acceptable and how much. Enough to be sure to protect the victim, but not following up with more just for the sake of vengeance.
And no, it doesn't matter if the guy kicking the kid was handicapped or not, either way he was physically attacking a child and needed to be stopped. The only difference in the situation would be in handling the follow up after the immediate threat was over with.