countdown,keith olbermann,waterboarding,torture Mancow Appears on Countdown to Discuss Waterboarding
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It's so rare to see an actual discussion without the "You're wrong" "No, you're wrong" attitude.
I'm actually pleased it wasn't Hannity after all.
It's so rare to see an actual discussion without the "You're wrong" "No, you're wrong" attitude.
And the great thing is we can have these kinds of discussions every night, on every newscast, as long as everyone gets waterboarded.
I've always kinda liked Mancow. I'm glad he changed his mind, and I hope it persuades others to do the same.
*promote!
>> ^blankfist:
If you enjoy exercising foreign interventionism and violence, then you are most certainly not a Libertarian. I wish people like Mancow and Glenn Beck would stop polluting the name of this party!
promote!
And of course, Jack, unlike in real life, doesn't have to be held accountable for his actions. Since, that would put him in federal prison, and you cant have a TV show about a guy in the field, who is locked up in federal prison. That's where the fantasy ends. Someone who conducts torture in the USA, HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE to their actions.
Otherwise, you agree, that the "Ends Justify The Means". Once a US citizen uses that as justification, the concept of the US Constitution ceases to exist!
The Japanese did that in WWII by the way. To their own people no less.
Still think it was a staged publicity stunt regardless of his now changed opinion.
Of course it was a publicity stunt. That's what radio commentators do; it's how they get ratings. The point is that he was vehemently against the "waterboarding-is-torture" perspective before this and changed his mind afterwards. If he would've been waterboarded and kept the same stance, I'm sure he would've gotten just as much publicity among the neo-con ranks.
Publicity stunt or not, it's a good example of the ignorance held among these "pro-waterboarders."
It IS torture, and disregarding the morality factor, it doesn't work. He would've admitted to ANYTHING and said whatever the interrogators wanted him to say to make it stop.
Question: torture: useful or not?
No, it is not useful. If a person is being tortured to extract information that they do not contain, they will make it up to stop the torture.
Question: torture: useful or not?
Human flesh: delicious?
>> ^lampishthing:
Question: torture: useful or not?
Human flesh: delicious?
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