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Loophole: 'Water Treatment' different than 'Waterboarding'

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From Think Progress: In February, CIA Director Michael Hayden confirmed that his agency used waterboarding on three al Qaeda suspects. But revelations from a former detainee in a hearing yesterday raise questions as to whether the administration has been playing word games with its definition of “waterboarding.”

Murat Kurnaz, “freed from Guantanamo in 2006 after a personal plea from German Chancellor Angela Merkel,” detailed the gross abuses he underwent in U.S. custody yesterday. Kurnaz said he was subjected to “water treatment” which involved a “strong punch” that forced him to inhale water. Asked if this was waterboarding, Kurnaz said “water treatment” is different:

ROHRABACHER: You suggest that you were waterboarded in your captivity. Is that correct?

KURNAZ: No, it’s not waterboarding. It’s called “water treatment.” There was a bucket of water.

ROHRABACHER: Was a cloth put over your face and you were put on a board?

KURNAZ: There was a bucket of water. And they stick my head in it and at the same time, punch me into my stomach.

Rohrabacher responded: “The CIA is claiming that only three people have been waterboarded. And this may be a loophole that they’re suggesting that’s not ‘waterboarding.’”

Kurnaz said that he was subject to “water treatment” once but that other detainees reported similar treatment. “There was prisoners who told me the same thing was happening to them,” he said.

Yesterday’s Justice Department Inspector General report also documents a 2004 interrogation in Iraq where interrogators “put water down” a detainee’s throat to mimic “the sensation that he was drowning.” The report says this is not “waterboarding,” but “this rough technique was part of an effort to intimidate the detainees and increase their feelings of helplessness.”

Kurnaz’s testimony suggests that, contrary to the administration line, more than three detainees have been subject to water torture. “It seems that we have a new definition,” said Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) in the hearing. “If you were wedded to the language of waterboarding, now we have new language called ‘water treatment,’ which may bear on being torture as well.”

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I wonder if the next step is us finding out that the administration has been "givin' people the water business."


written by Tofumar  | 1 year 6 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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I can't believe the US government is using semantics to excuse it's criminal conduct.


written by Farhad2000  | 1 year 6 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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^Unfortunately, I can.


written by kronosposeidon  | 1 year 6 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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And the QM downvote. Now that I can't believe.


written by kronosposeidon  | 1 year 6 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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water treatment. what else can we call it. wetted the prisoners. watered them. gave them water. i think i will have to go with "we used water to rinse out the dirty information from the terrorists".

and *promote orwellianisms


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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Thursday, May 22nd, 2008 5:05am PDT - promote requested by lavoll.


written by siftbot  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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Semantics is trying to dress up human excrement/terrorists/thugs as "enemy soldiers" and give them American legal rights.

Since we all know "torture doesn't work", there's no point in warehousing scum, just kill them where they're found.


written by quantumushroom  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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maybe Guantanamo should be referred to as "the water park" from now on.


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