A review by Lore Sjöberg of Alt Text fame.
dooglesays...

So much I don't understand here. Please forgive me.

  1. Begging/Bagging the question - what does it mean, apart from pointing out the other person is actually asking a question?
  2. What's with the B- and D+ scores the guy is giving?

drattussays...

doogle, the vid was funny but is more satire on how this stuff gets used on the internet rather than a lesson on what it really means. The scores were just his opinions of the type of arguments I'd guess.

For what Begging The Question means you can check the following page, main site has a bunch more and they add examples and lessons on logic fairly regularly.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/begquest.html

djsunkidsays...

The grade scores are because it's Lore, formerly of http://www.brunching.com/ Lore has been giving aspects of life grade ratings since the 90s. The only person, place or thing that has ever, that will ever recieve a rating of F is Scrappy Doo. He has rated hundreds and hundreds of things, and never has he ever rated anything else that low.

EDDsays...

>> ^djsunkid:
The only person, place or thing that has ever, that will ever recieve a rating of F is Scrappy Doo. He has rated hundreds and hundreds of things, and never has he ever rated anything else that low.


ha ha ha, seems that me and him are on the same page.

Although he was clearly in the wrong with "Begging the question". While it's true that almost nobody ever uses it correctly (see, even he did it wrong), it's actually quite simple to explain it, which he didn't even attempt - just gave some weird irrelevant examples.

Actually it is a specific sort of misuse of arguments in a debate - either using an idea not agreed upon by the other side as a supporting argument for your case, or even worse, using such a premise as a final conclusion.

As an easter egg, there's actually a case of a question begged in this very post of mine - an argument based on a floating premise not yet substantiated. Ahhh, Theory of Knowledge rules.

siftbotsays...

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dystopianfuturetodaysays...

Begging the question is when you include your argument as a foregone conclusion within a question, thus forcing your opponent to agree with you if he or she answers the question.

Example: Why do liberals hate America.

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