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jewish,bar mitzvah,agnostic,religion Jewish boy announces his Agnosticism at his Bar MitzvahJewish boy announces his Agnosticism at his Bar Mitzvahtags:This Jewish boy explains that he doesn't know if he believes in God and explains that some of the biblical acts are "impossible". This kid has some serious balls to get up in front of everyone at your religious coming-of-age and tell them you're not so sure about this whole God thing.
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although, the laughs he gets, make this Bar Mitzvah Stand Up *Comedy
From my experience, my culture tends to look down upon youngsters questioning the authority or what has already been established. Social Hierarchy (especially regarding age, sex and status) is absolute in Korean society.
Koreans also tends to deify successful social figures, and yet they usually ignore how they got to be so successful, as these individuals usually have ignored these social taboos and tends to show very progressive philosophies.
Furthermore, if he was really brave he would renounce his faith and become a fellow atheist.
It takes very little courage to shut your eyes, far more to open them.
That's my two cents(EURO) anyway...
[Edit: This was a subtle joke implying that he has HUGE TITANIUM BALLS.]
David Cross does a really funny bit on his standup cd "Shut Up You Fucking Baby" about this very thing. Even if you're an outspoken Atheist, you're still a Jew. Weird, huh?
So what, if I stop practicing the same religion that my family has practiced for generations, I no longer am Korean?
Further more, are you implying that in order to qualify as a Jew, you HAVE to have faith in order to be a Jew? Who the fuck made that up? What, all Jews are god fearing believers? What kind of racist statement is that?
Think about it. Let me give you an extreme example. In the same sense, if a black person no longer listens to rap songs, he's not black anymore?? That's what basically you are implying here.
All Blacks = listens to rap
All Jews = believes in god
Doesn't sound right does it?
Bottom line is, it has nothing to do with your religious belief. God or no god, you're still a Jew.
p.s (Why does my last sentence sound so derogatory? LOL)
Um, no. It would not be any more brave just because that's what you want him to do, or even because it's true (IMHO) that there is no god. Rather, it would only be going beyond where he feels the evidence leads him, and thus would constitute a betrayal of his principles. Remember, he said he doesn't know whether or not there's a god.
So doing what you want him to do wouldn't be brave. It would be foolish.
If you look at Judaism in terms of faith in the Judeo-Christian god and the practice of what's taught in the Torah (whether taken literally or as parable), then it's ABSURD to think that if you don't believe in god, you can still be Jewish. This comes from the Christian's "accept Christ as your savior" mentality where it's an apparent choice.
If you understand Judaism as a culture (not a race of its own), it'd be easier to understand one's ability to disavow God and still be a part of that culture in ritual, but not in belief.
@ legacy0100: I have heard it described as Judaism for the religion, Hebrew for the race/culture, but I don't know if that is right. I'm not a part of that group so I couldn't say for sure. But saying someone is a Jew is not the same sort of classification as calling them Korean or Black. There is a blending of religion and culture that is very pervasive and complex, so the labels are not as clear.
Also, yeah... culture is not the same as religion.
He says near the end that he doesn't "think that we need to believe in God to act that way (good to each other)" - such wisdom out of the mouths of babes.
In Mexico, everyone is Catholic - including the atheists.
In my country there are plenty of traditions and holidays that originate from the religious belief system which has been dominant here for over 1100 years. Most people who get their children baptised, however, do so to ensure their children will be allowed to pursue a religious career if they find themselves believing in Christianity, and also it will allow them to be buried in graveyards along with their family. This leads children to be counted as Christians even though they have no faith.
There are of course other reasons for baptising ones children, but they're irrelevant for this discussion. I'm merely pointing out that it's possible to be affiliated with a religion without believing in its god, but it's a completely administrative affiliation.
Just because you don't believe in what your family has believed in for generation doesn't mean you're no longer Korean, because their religious affiliation is just a part of the culture. Would anyone and everyone who believed in something different from what your family believe in count as non-Koreans? No, of course not. I think the term Korean implies that you're born and/or raised in Korea, and nothing more.
Being black is a physical attribute and has nothing to do with cultural or religious heritage, or personal preference in music. That analogy is wrong, plain and simple.
>> ^legacy0100:
I disagree Judaism being purely a religious thing. You are saying that if you don't believe in the Jewish god, then you're not a Jew? I think you're looking at this from a very black and white (and frankly, very ignorant) point of view.
So what, if I stop practicing the same religion that my family has practiced for generations, I no longer am Korean?
Further more, are you implying that in order to qualify as a Jew, you HAVE to have faith in order to be a Jew? Who the fuck made that up? What, all Jews are god fearing believers? What kind of racist statement is that?
Think about it. Let me give you an extreme example. In the same sense, if a black person no longer listens to rap songs, he's not black anymore?? That's what basically you are implying here.
All Blacks = listens to rap
All Jews = believes in god
Doesn't sound right does it?
Bottom line is, it has nothing to do with your religious belief. God or no god, you're still a Jew.
p.s (Why does my last sentence sound so derogatory? LOL)
But all I've got to say is that whatever their religious fervor and the seriousness of which they practiced their religion such as whether or not you strictly eat just the kosher food, wear yamulkah every single friggin day, sing songs with heavy 'hhk' sounds etc etc, they were still Jewish, living with Jewish parents and having Jewish cousins.
Judaism is a religion, but being a Jew is a family culture you are born into. Doesn't matter if your eyes are blue or brown, your nose tall as the parted red seas or flat as plains of wartorn Palestine. It's not strictly a race, it's not strictly religion. It's culture.
And as rottenseed says, I believe that the reason why some of you think 'being Jewish' is just a choice is because you're thinking in terms of the Christian's "accept Christ as your savior" mentality where it's an apparent choice.
How odd, to think that people who usually think this way also happen to be against minorities such as gays because they think it's a matter of choice.
^Kreegath
I don't know why you are replying to my comment because I don't particularly disagree with anything you had to say, and my first comment wasn't even directed towards you in the first place.
All I gotta ask is one thing:
>> ^Kreegath:
I think the term Korean implies that you're born and/or raised in Korea, and nothing more.
So by that logic, a person that was born into a Korean family but also born in America and raised in America is no longer Korean? I was born in Korea, but raised in America in a Jewish neighborhood. What the heck does that make me then? A Komerish? Jewmerean?
god bless him.
It's all very confusing for the layman, so don't get antsy at people for not understanding it all.
>> ^legacy0100:
^Hey, I like this new guy.
As a goyim
Goyim is plural. You would be a goy.