I can't imagine a President being named Obama!
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I wonder if she would have voted for Millard or Rutherford or Grover.
I DON'T TRUST THAT GROVER SON OF A BITCH, I HEAR HE LIKES BEING FISTED WHILE HE TALKS TO CHILDREN
(she was eating)
Seriously though, Religion should decide who is President? I think she has Capital Hill mixed up with the Vatican.
1. Her vote counts as much as yours.
2. I feel sorry for her husband.
Yeah, I get the impression there aren't many things you can imagine with that 50-something IQ score.
>> ^dead_tofu:
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
To some extent, you have a point. But a big fat moron can work out and diet to get in shape and can go read a book (besides the bible) to learn a few things. If you're Arabic, you can't turn Japanese through hard work and effort.
Also note that being fat is inferior to being in shape and it's something you ought to want to change, whereas being black, brown, yellow or red is not inferior to being white.
"A mother that was atheist! Hoo! Spawn of an atheist ain't running my White House!"
Tracy Curly endorses McCain because he is "The one who has the most faith in the Lord. I can't imagine a president of the United States being named president Obama... I really have a problem with that... a mother that was atheist, that really gets to me... a father that was a Muslim, that should get to everyone."
Colin Powell endorses Obama because "He displayed a steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, a depth of knowledge... He’s crossing lines-- ethnic lines, racial lines, generational lines... he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities, as well as his substance, he has both style and substance, he has met the standard of being a successful president... I think he is a transformational figure, he is a new generation, coming onto the world stage, the American stage,
And for that reason, I will be voting for Barack Obama."
Close call... I'd say tie goes to the General.
To my point, this narrow-minded, shallow, racist pig is more than likely fat because she enjoys a nice pint of ice-cream after each meal.
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
It was a pun on a classic old "Animal House" line.
That isn't true, there's just a big population of fundamentalist patriots like this woman who want to kill them all and send them to hell for all eternity.
but it's not a crusade...
...ummm...
Yes, and it's not McCain or Obama. The right candidate for him is Divorce!
Honestly would anyone else here rather sleep with Jabba the Hutt than her?
That was a loving glare in her eyes when she mentioned Obama's parents.
...does it smell like divorce to anyone else, or is it just me?
...unless you're talking about how over-eating cheeseburgers makes you fat, and over-eating carrots will turn you're skin orange.
>> ^dead_tofu:
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
And it did.
Damnit.
Self righteous, idiotic, misguided, angry, bitter, ugly (of mind as well), aaaaaaaahhhhgh.
I would LIKE to say that I would like to see someone explain to her why the way she thinks is wrong, I would LIKE to be able to see someone do that and have it work, and for her to understand why her views ARE WRONG.
But, we all know that she is one bigoted bitch who will never be shown the right way because she will never let herself admit she has been wrong all this time.
Ever.
Bitch.
You don't see the similarities between your own comments and this woman's remarks.
>> ^rougy:
Fat, stupid, and fundamentalist is the Republican way of life.
Except that she is fat, as are most Red State Americans.
And she is stupid, as are most Red State Americans.
And she is a Christian fundamentalist, as are most Red State Americans.
And she's a Republican, as are most Red State Americans.
Her comment has nothing in common with my comment, because my comment is, on the whole, accurate.
>> ^deedub81:
You know what's funny?
You don't see the similarities between your own comments and this woman's remarks.
>> ^rougy:
Fat, stupid, and fundamentalist is the Republican way of life.
Ugly as sin.
Which sin?
Lust?
Gluttony?
Usury?
Pressures for conformity and control. Why do I get the feeling that subtracting people like this would almost completely fix the christian church?
Has anyone else said something this crass and uneducated? She's not dumb but she makes up for it in "vulgar".
Man I couldn't forgive myself if I looked that dumb.
Fuck me!!!
Why do I get the feeling that subtracting people like this would almost completely fix the christian church?
Religion isn't something that can be fixed.
Soy lattes
Dry cleaning
No more scurvy
A decrease of religious zealotry
Led Zeppelin
>> ^bluecliff:
so whats so special about 2008?
Dude is whippppeed
I feel so sorry for her husband. He must be embarrassed by her. I predict divorce in their future.
Idiotic cunts like this are ruining the world. Imagine the critical thinking skills that this couple's children would bring to bear. Oh well, guess the world will always need more mindless consumers and marketing victims.
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
Not in the least. See my above comment. She wasn't born fat and ignorant, it took hard work and training for her to get that way.
Fucking idiots. Fucking nuke America. They need a reboot.
Calm down, everyone.
Yes, I find this personally disgusting. But democracy means that every vote counts. And if the majority of America turns out to be like this woman, well, that's the kind of leadership that America will choose for itself.
The cornerstone of Democracy is that no person's opinion means more than another's. Just because we have (presumably) higher IQs doesn't mean our votes should be weighted more. It's tempting to say, "There ought to be a test you have to pass to register to vote." But who makes the test? If that woman made it, and it was chock full o' Bible trivia, I'd fail it.
Sometimes we don't get the leadership we need, sometimes we get the leadership we deserve.
What specifically occurred to make her so painfully ignorant? These are the more important questions that need to be solved to make people like this into informed voters and successful participants in our society. We may not know all the answers because we don't have all the information, but I feel it's worth at least some conjecture and rational thought.
Either way, I'm willing to bet that she has no more than a high school education - if that. It may sound elitist, but I believe that education is the cornerstone of creating a society of logical, thinking, clear-headed individuals able to make critical decisions.
Zombie... I think you nailed it to a large degree... Look at the polls when questioning people with a college education... They typically range in the 70-80% for Obama...
That sad thing is... it's used as a knock against them... It couldn't possibly be that they have an expanded view of the world... and a higher level of education...
No... they are 'elitest... and arrogant... and couldn't possible relate to me'
Of course she would be - she is Jabba the Hut, on a special mission for Jesus.
sigh
Calm down, everyone.
Yes, I find this personally disgusting. But democracy means that every vote counts. And if the majority of America turns out to be like this woman, well, that's the kind of leadership that America will choose for itself.
The cornerstone of Democracy is that no person's opinion means more than another's. Just because we have (presumably) higher IQs doesn't mean our votes should be weighted more. It's tempting to say, "There ought to be a test you have to pass to register to vote." But who makes the test? If that woman made it, and it was chock full o' Bible trivia, I'd fail it.
Sometimes we don't get the leadership we need, sometimes we get the leadership we deserve.
The problem is the elections of this country affect many other countries. Do other countries in the world deserve to be affected by 'what America deserves'?
why do other countries need to feel the impact of a bunch of ignorant people, how is that fair?
I understand what you are saying but that last line irks me. American elections are different from the elections of other countries because of the influence America has (even if it has diminished)
Makes no sense to me to say other countries whose people are not as dogmatic, 'deserve' to be affected by what this closeminded ignorant person thinks is a good leader.
And it is precisely for reasons such as this one that we should be upset. We can't let ignorance fuck up everyone.
If you're Arabic, you can't turn Japanese through hard work and effort.
Turning Japanese, I think I'm Turning Japanese, I really think so...
Sorry, it's the first thing I heard in my head after reading that.
If I was on a desert island for 10 years I wouldnt do her. (I might do a cod up that ass tho)
I wouldn't have a problem resorting to canibalism though...
Either way, I'm willing to bet that she has no more than a high school education - if that. It may sound elitist, but I believe that education is the cornerstone of creating a society of logical, thinking, clear-headed individuals able to make critical decisions.
You've got to be kidding me. I've got no higher than a high school education (because I could not afford to go to College) and I am no where near as ignorant as this woman. I also work in the IT field. Which requires logical, clear-headed thinking in order to perform my job. AND I'm self taught no less.
I hate to burst your bubble pal. But I know a lot of College educated people that are just as ignorant as this woman. There is such a thing as common sense, and independent thought. Both of which this woman is severely lacking. No College in the world can teach you common sense. You either have it or you don't. As for independent thought. It's perfectly clear from this clip that she lets the media and the Church do her thinking for her.
I am sure there were some wonderful comments.
Zombie... I think you nailed it to a large degree... Look at the polls when questioning people with a college education... They typically range in the 70-80% for Obama...
That sad thing is... it's used as a knock against them... It couldn't possibly be that they have an expanded view of the world... and a higher level of education...
No... they are 'elitest... and arrogant... and couldn't possible relate to me'
I don't think education has one bit to do with it. More the area you were raised in. I only graduated high school and work with the public in retail. Most of the people I work with have the same level of education. Just about everyone I work with can clearly see McCain is a moron and is voting Obama, as I am myself. The difference is, we live right on the edge of the DC line and have lived with diversity in race all of our lives. It's no issue to us that he's black or muslim or whatever you want to label him as. Some of these people live out in the boonies and have never seen a black man, and they are ignorantly afraid of them for it.
And she's a Republican, as are most Red State Americans.
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, to learn that some - no, most - red states are Republican. Why was I not informed of this earlier?
faith; the resignation to the omission of reasoning. Great voting route to take.
To the wise, life is a problem; to the fool, a solution
So that means I am BETTER THAN YOU.
Good to see such people have such high standards to qualify an individual for being president. If this is the case, any Bible-driveling mindless moron jabbering meaningless religio-babble can be president.
Snakes can talk
People can fly
A man named Jesus lives up in the Sky!
Real bright.
And yes, this woman represents a disturbingly large number of people who live in Republican-controlled states.
They are exactly like her.
Yes, she's stupid, ignorant, racist, a fundamentalist, and pretty damn ugly (inside and out), but there's a deeper question here: why does this woman, and presumably a large group of Americans, think like this? Is it solely because of her Christian upbrining? If so, why are there also many clear-headed, not-as-ignorant, rational Christians? Is it because of her social-economic status? A combinations of the two? Her upbringing?
What specifically occurred to make her so painfully ignorant? These are the more important questions that need to be solved to make people like this into informed voters and successful participants in our society. We may not know all the answers because we don't have all the information, but I feel it's worth at least some conjecture and rational thought.
Either way, I'm willing to bet that she has no more than a high school education - if that. It may sound elitist, but I believe that education is the cornerstone of creating a society of logical, thinking, clear-headed individuals able to make critical decisions.
You win my award for the best response to this of the bunch. Instead of ridiculing her, we need to figure out why people get this way, and do our best to prevent this kind of hardheaded ignorance.
Education might help, but education by who? If she goes to a fire & brimstone church that's decided to become a front for the Republican party, what's she going to learn?
Should we really ban those sorts of things, or maybe just require them to put Reagan's face on their crucifixes?
We know why people get that way: because thinking is hard and believing is easy.
Because if you pander to their bigotry they'll justify your avarice.
There is no fixing it. Every time you try to expand their minds, they'll accuse you of being in league with the devil.
They will win, and we liberals will lose, the same way that Sparta beat Athens.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/10/a_real_true_american_woman.php
If I was on a desert island for 10 years I wouldnt do her. (I might do a cod up that ass tho)
She'd probably lose a lot of weight after 10 years. Although who can resist the sultry come hither look of a cod.
Colin Powell, fighting her off with a stick!
I don't know who to root for!!
Kinda, but not really.
...unless you're talking about how over-eating cheeseburgers makes you fat, and over-eating carrots will turn you're skin orange.
>> ^dead_tofu:
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
Isn't it possible that she can't control her weight? I, for one, will give her the benefit of the doubt.
The McCain brand of extreme Captialism where its profit at all costs with zero regulation doesn't sound very Christian to me.
Ps. 10:3 - "the greedy man curses and spurns God"
Prov. 11:6 - "the treacherous are caught by their own greed"
Jere. 6:13; 8:10 - "everyone is greedy for gain"
Lk. 12:15 - "be on guard against every form of greed; life is not in possessions"
Eph. 4:9 - "Gentiles...practice every kind of impurity with greediness"
I Thess. 2:5 - "we did not come with pretext for greed"
I Tim. 3:8 - (deacons) "not fond of sordid gain" (cf. Titus 1:7)
II Peter 2:3 - (false prophets) "in their greed they will exploit you with false words"
II Peter 2:14 - (false prophets) "have hearts trained in greed"
Sad that Her racism has distorted her faith.
Oh, that's right! She's Dolores Umbridge!
"She is a short, squat woman described in the book as resembling a large pale toad. She has a broad, flabby face, little neck, and a wide, slack mouth, with "short, curly, mouse-brown hair."
Doesn't say anything about bulging demon eyes, though.
All that and he's running for president of the united states! That a man from some pretty humble beginings can be such a well respected figure on the world stage.
Now what were your redneck, backwards children doing again??
Come on, sperm curl up and die if they get within a mile of her. I think her husband's penis probably fell off in protest years ago.
Some people are overweight, but are healthier than most people. I am not sure there is an accurate clinical definition. Obesity can be quantified, but the health of the obese as it associates to being overweight is not clear metric.
Don't get my wrong she is one chubby puppy, who deserves the life she has, but lets not get all philosophical. You don't qruel getting wind of this and weighing in, so to speak.
Her chubby chasin' old man is no better. "I just hope it stays runnin till I can retire" (social security). In other words, fuck everyone else. Hope they don't have kids.
Umm watch this clip, starting at 1:45 mark if you don't want to watch the whole thing. Then you can take your foot out of your mouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CatsNlhh4fs&feature=related
As much as I think this lady is a complete idiot, I think her husband sounds like he's got his head on straight.
I don't know what's worse, the original comment or the fact that it got 7 upvotes.
Hypothetically, if everyone who lives in a town is an ignoramus, and therefore no one smart wants to move there, who's going to be teaching in the schools there? Think about it. Teachers need to be shuffled around for the benefit of these towns.
In my experience, the geographical clustering is such that being valedictorian at one high school is equivalent to being completely average at another high school.
im betting she has no idea whats in the bible even.
Mine says Love Thy Neighbor...
If the woman was black with the exact same spiel, I wonder if the comments here would be the same.
i was thinkin the same
>> ^zombieater:
Either way, I'm willing to bet that she has no more than a high school education - if that. It may sound elitist, but I believe that education is the cornerstone of creating a society of logical, thinking, clear-headed individuals able to make critical decisions.
You've got to be kidding me. I've got no higher than a high school education (because I could not afford to go to College) and I am no where near as ignorant as this woman. I also work in the IT field. Which requires logical, clear-headed thinking in order to perform my job. AND I'm self taught no less.
I hate to burst your bubble pal. But I know a lot of College educated people that are just as ignorant as this woman. There is such a thing as common sense, and independent thought. Both of which this woman is severely lacking. No College in the world can teach you common sense. You either have it or you don't. As for independent thought. It's perfectly clear from this clip that she lets the media and the Church do her thinking for her.
Well, my question was 'What made her so ignorant?' I merely suggested that education may play a part in that process. I never insinuated that education was the only cause. I'm sure that there are many voters that have high school educations that can still think critically, but there are probably also many that can't. The underlying question is, "Does having a low education make one more or less likely to be ignorant on voting issues?"
I certainly don't have the answer.
>> ^quantumushroom:
If the woman was black with the exact same spiel, I wonder if the comments here would be the same.
i was thinkin the same
Why would it be any different. If a black woman said that Obama wasn't a good choice because he was a secret Muslim, son of an atheist, etc. she'd still be ignorant and racist (and I'm assuming fat since you didn't change her weight aside from her skin color).
Urg... fat, stupid, and racist. Such a wonderful combination.
don't forget proud
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
People don't get a certain skin color by a lack of discipline in their diet.
Oh yea...don't give me the "thyroid" excuse, either.
If you're Arabic, you can't turn Japanese through hard work and effort.
Right, all you need is some masking tape and a kimono.
When Obama gets elected (more when than if, according to recent electoral votes)I'd have the Secret Service put her near the top of the "list".
Indeed, I too worry about the effects of her gravitational pull on Air Force One.
Likely? Nope.
>> ^Aemaeth:
>> ^deedub81:
Kinda, but not really.
...unless you're talking about how over-eating cheeseburgers makes you fat, and over-eating carrots will turn you're skin orange.
>> ^dead_tofu:
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
Isn't it possible that she can't control her weight? I, for one, will give her the benefit of the doubt.
"OO-bama"
but I'm an atheist so it would be pointless.
Please someone pray for his salvation from her!
No, sorry, irrational religious zealotry occurs among the educated and racially/culturally diverse as well, it's more of a sickness than a deficiency in education or cultural exposure or whatever.
btw if she knew her Bible she would follow the apostle Paul's command, which was given by God, that Women Should be Silent and Obey Their Husbands.
Yeah right. Not even Christians believe the Bible.
Who cares about your stupid conservative religious world view... Bush was a conservative religious person and look where it got us.
Fucking idiots. Fucking nuke America. They need a reboot.
To be fair Farhad, a large number of people in this country do not share her point of view, I would like to think that bigoted, ignorant racists like this woman are a minority. For the sake of my fellow Americans who are nothing like this woman ... save the reboot until it's utterly necessary.
...and I've had a chance to leave.
Fucking idiots. Fucking nuke America. They need a reboot.
Discounting that Farhad was perhaps angry when he typed the above--and he has that right--I'm disappointed but not shocked that such a thoughtless comment has no downvotes but actually 1 upvote. If only the left hated al qaeda as much or more than they hate America.
Regarding the litany of comments trying to understand why and how this person came to be this way, its simple, there is no real focus on the rights and civic responsibilities of the citizenry in the US. Before you all get railed up and say this was cut and pasted into a clip to make news BS, this point of view has been pushed around and expressed countless times, its like endemic now.
It's a given to be thought controlled into trusting your government, only through a seasoned analytical education looking at maybe just the last 50 years of political history can you readily understand how the US government in most cases works against it's citizenry rather then for it (bay of pigs, star wars, vietnam, watergate, countless shit form both sides of the aisle).
But we don't need analytical thought provoking education anymore, we need fact machines that are just enough to earn a GED and maybe work a computer to succeed. Half of your education now is based more around studying towards test taking rather then actual information or processing that information, since accumulation of facts is not the same as actually thinking through those.
I mean look at something like Discovery Channel, before you could actually watch that a learn something new about Quantum Physics or the Cuban revolution, now it's all a sitcom about busting some dumb fucking myth or Orange County bikers or some rebuild of some fucking car.
But it doesn't matter really though, for most people in the US the only place that exists for them is the US. That's why it's so easy to rally around bombing some poor third world nation from the bronze age back to the stone age, its so far and unimportant and our media paints such a nice picture of it.
This all connects back to belief and comfort, its comforting to let your blind belief in God or the FSM dictate your life, because then you aren't responsible for your actions, because then everything becomes preordained.
Think how comforting it is to know that God made 9/11 happen because America is a sinful nation... rather then a passive aggressor who has push into action countless covert and non covert military operations in Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan because it thought it was doing the right thing without actually thinking of possible blow back stemming from supporting religious nut case such as the Taliban.
What's easier to believe and swallow? God or Facts?
Yes there are many people in the US who are not like this person and are actually aware, and engage in educated discourse from both sides of the coin but really that doesn't count at all for me.
Because this person is demonstrating a total lack of BASIC FACTUAL knowledge about what has happened in this (once great) nation for the last 8 years. I mean seriously. WTF. That's just intolerable, its like decades later we will all do an about face and declare Bush some kind of great war hero, even though he terminated some of the most basic tenants of what make America a kick ass nation (no torture, haebus corpus, no spying on its own citizens and so on)
I'm disappointed but not shocked that such a thoughtless comment has no downvotes but actually 1 upvote.
actually, shroomy, it does. 2 downvotes.
and 3 up, for a net of 1^ overall. rollover the arrows.
and if i thought the lady in this clip were typical of the majority of americans?
i might've been one of those upvotes.
Who cares about your stupid conservative religious world view... Bush was a conservative religious person and look where it got us.
Fucking idiots. Fucking nuke America. They need a reboot.
As I understand, it wasn't Bush's overzealous views of Christianity that got us in trouble. He surrounded himself with people smarter than him, and he didn't listen to a word of advice. That and unfinished business from the Clinton administration.
I think your attitude needs a reboot.
Edit: OK, I just upvoted the Powell video. So now it only needs 2 more votes to top reverend piggy. How nice it would be to see Col. Powell atop the bigot video! Would make for nice symbolism.
>> ^ponceleon:
>> ^DrPawn:
If I was on a desert island for 10 years I wouldnt do her. (I might do a cod up that ass tho)
I wouldn't have a problem resorting to canibalism though...
>> ^Farhad2000:
Who cares about your stupid conservative religious world view... Bush was a conservative religious person and look where it got us.
As I understand, it wasn't Bush's overzealous views of Christianity that got us in trouble. He surrounded himself with people smarter than him, and he didn't listen to a word of advice.
I think you misunderstood my problem with her statements, the religious community and many other voters connect a leaders religious devotion/conviction with capability to lead a nation. You know instead of actual policy stance and issues, I mean 2004 was an election run on family values at a time of war.
That's simply retarded considering declaring war and bombing other nations is unchristian as you can get. Some choice quotes:
Hope that clears it for you. My attitude is great post Ketamine trip. Thanks.
hey, i dont see how being fat plays a role in this.....??? its kinda the same as refering to the color of peoples skin, isnt it?
gluttony is a choice, and a deadly sin. dark skin colour is not.
obesity costs the taxpayer. dark skin does not.
i am sure crazy "christian" tracy is going to give all her money to the poor and love her neighbour some time soon. Oh yeah. Real soon. Any minute now.
Usually headed by a man with his own personal jet...
I mean really. what could be more christian than that?... I honestly can't tell you how many parents of my friends this woman reminds me of... it's realy to depressing to think about.
He may just vote Obama in the hopes that she divorces him for his evil ways...
Win win imo.. =)
Main reasons people eat shit food: Tastes good, is cheaper, and is practically conjured out of thin air in seconds.
Don't start about how you hate hamburgers and they taste crap, you know what I mean. There's lots of crap food out there that has nothing to do with beef. As a matter of fact, the less cheap food has to do with real beef the crappier it is.
ps. Have any of you even watched the campaign stops? God, there's like 10x the chubbies at the Democratic rallies.
"If the fifteen-billion-year lifetime of the universe was compressed into one year, dinosaurs would emerge on Christmas Eve; flowers would arise on December 28th; and men and women would originate at 10:30 p.m. on New Year's Eve. All of recorded history would take place in the last ten seconds of December 31st. The two hundred years of our American democracy is actually only a fraction of a second long. In this case we've come a long way."
This would make Humanity still attached to the umbilical cord for crying out loud. What makes you think any intelligent decisions can be made at this age???
>> ^fluidfxmedia:
if ignorance was oil we'd be one rich country
And I really wanted to see this one!
"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Jumpstart Productions." Tsssk, guess they made this interview so nobody could see it.