Hillary and Obama Do Nothing to Fight Bush on Immunity

published by lesserfool 2 months 1 week ago • 414 views

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The American rational minority is pissed at Obama for breaking his word to filibuster any bill containing retroactive immunity for the telecoms.

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Obama supports the FISA bill but says he will "work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses"

Senator Russ Feingold says the "deal is not a compromise; it is a capitulation."

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Count me as a member of the rational minority who's pissed at Obama about this.

I'm watching to see how the Senate portion of this plays out, but I'm not hopeful.

Someone on one of the blogs I was reading was arguing that the immunity is just for civil cases, and has nothing to do with criminal cases...and that the compromise is really a "win" for our side, since the Republicans will think they won, only to get hauled off in irons when AG Edwards tries them for treason...

But that seems like grasping at straws to me.

This whole surveillance issue obviously won't go away, but this leaves things in a dangerous state (Presidents can spy on anyone, without probable cause).

It also pretty much guarantees that any crimes committed with domestic spying by Bush & co. won't be revealed to the public, let alone get a day in court. Guess we'll just have to try them for one of their countless other crimes.

edit: I remembered where I'd heard about the immunity only being for civil cases. It wasn't from blogs, but from Olbermann.

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