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Hillary Clinton Uncensored

posted by tedbater 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago • 3772 views
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If she's elected...I'm leaving the county.

Don't know if this will make it on LiberalSift...but we'll see...

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Edit: I'm not sticking up for Hillary anymore.


written by dystopianfuturetoday  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Fucking bitch.


written by MarineGunrock  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I'd like to explain my downvote.

Mark Mcgrath was singing REALLY out of tune. But it was made up for by the hotness of Peter Pauls wife (Yeowzaa ! that was sexist!)

I thought this was interesting and fairly well put together. there was some really neat behind the scenes footage and overall it was edited really well.

I do have issues in general with assertions not being backed up. Like Paul saying that the judge on his case was appointed by the Clintons (that sounds implausible as they don't appoint judges and the video showed no proof of this). And the the opinion / commentary of David Chippers (DOJ prosecutor, Clinton Impeachment Manager) that the judge was biased is not coming from an unbiased source (himself - look at his creds)

I guess I also don't understand why the Clintons would "do in" a major donor. biting the hand that fed them doesn't really make sense. That is not to say it didn't happen. But why would her campaign finance manager take a fall for her if she was the one actually to be held accountable.

a few other questions unanswered by the video

so what was Peter Pauls felon (from 2 decades prior ?). Was he a fugitive at the time of his arrest in a foreign country ?

on a side note...

I like the guy who says "it's the largest election fraud in the United States ( I guess I considered that laughable for what goes on and doesn't get reported or caught...meaning that's not just a Clinton thing, as it's a problem on both sides of the aisle). Through-out the video several of these people overstate what's going on to the point where it diminishes the real issue. While these events might or might not have happened the level of hysteria the whole thing portrays smacks of hypocracy considering the current administration (i personally don't care about eithers fundraising...it's the policy they push once in office that concerns me)

But as far as leaving the country if Hillary becomes prez... i had to laugh. (considering the people who are running the adminstration at the present and what they've done across the board to our government, freedoms, environment, etc....).

This video was about Campaign finances, not policy that she would implement. So in that regard, if something like this upsets you that much to move out of the country I would almost assume that you are blind, deaf, dumb and have been living under a rock for the last 7 years. (sorry for the ad hom :-)

QRUEL


written by qruel  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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BTW: I really like Stan Lee


written by qruel  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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This Paul fellow seems pretty shady. I say this after reading wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul

He seems to be a longtime liar. That doesn't mean he isn't telling the truth now, but this doesn't convince me of much. "People will finally realize the threat posed by Hillary Clinton to this country and the rest of the world." Please. I can't believe Fox News wouldn't be going nuts on reporting this every few seconds if Paul was reliable.


written by oxdottir  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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qruel wrote:
I do have issues in general with assertions not being backed up. Like Paul saying that the judge on his case was appointed by the Clintons (that sounds implausible as they don't appoint judges and the video showed no proof of this).
They showed his name "Judge Howard Matz"...google it and you will see that he was a Clinton appointee.

a few other questions unanswered by the video
so what was Peter Pauls felon (from 2 decades prior ?).
The video showed that too. It was for cocaine possession and trying to swindle money from the Cuban Government (whatever that means)...he pled guilty and served 3 years in prison.

Was he a fugitive at the time of his arrest in a foreign country?
Not a fugitive for the prior felonies....it said he was detained for extradition because he was being investigated in connection for misuse of his brokerage accounts.

I like the guy who says "it's the largest election fraud in the United States ( I guess I considered that laughable for what goes on and doesn't get reported or caught...meaning that's not just a Clinton thing, as it's a problem on both sides of the aisle).
Talk about making accusations without providing anything to back it up. I don't know if the Clinton's are guilty here or not...but to take the stance that "if they are guilty it's no big deal because they aren't the only ones" is what I find laughable.

(i personally don't care about eithers fundraising...it's the policy they push once in office that concerns me)
Well they usually go hand in hand. You can pretty much count on it...if their fund raising is shady then so will the intentions of the policies they push.

This video was about Campaign finances, not policy that she would implement.
A corrupt politician is a corrupt politician.


written by Grimm  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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A clinton appointee is different than saying they specifically assigned him to that case. Again, they did not address it in the video.

did you happen to read oxdottir's wiki link to Paul ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul
this video obviously presents only one side of the issue, so some of their assertions seem a little overblown and misleading, especially considering Paul's backstory

"A corrupt politician is a corrupt politician."

corrupt by what standards ? finance laws that politicians from both parties seem to bend and skirt ? I happen to think that what might be a bigger issue (for both parties) is that they are beholden to the corporations that raise / give them money.

Also, the poster was specifically commenting that if Hillary became prez he would move out of the usa...all because of finance fraud ? that's laughable as it has nothing to do with policy views and implementation. it's also hypocritcal considering the current administration.


written by qruel  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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He never said anything about "they specifically assigned him to that case". His words exactly are "the judge that officiated over the Rosen trial was appointed by the Clinton's". Now sure it could be argued that Clinton's (plural) is probably something that could never be proven...but at the very least we know that Bill Clinton appointed him.

It's hard to take you serious about how things in this video can not be taken at face value and that facts are being distorted when you yourself have done exactly the same thing in regards to what is in this video.

I don't care what the other guy said...I'm addressing what you said. Your the one that seems to think that finance fraud should not reflect negatively on a politician...that it should only be the policies they push that count.


written by Grimm  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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just think, if she is elected, poor tedbater will have to move out of the country, showing his disapproval of a politician who "perhaps" skirted some finance laws.

so much for innocent until proven guilty eh ?


written by qruel  | 2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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She has effectively been proven guilty by that tape. :-)

I sincerly hope she is not elected, not only on the basis of this video (which would be enough), but on many of her policies.


written by gwiz665  | 2 years 1 month 1 week ago | CH
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Discarding this video. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 4 days.


written by siftbot  | 2 years 1 month 1 week ago | CH
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*save, because we need to stare evil in the face.


written by gorgonheap  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Saving this video from the discard pile and sending it back to the queue for one more try; last queued Tuesday, October 16th, 2007 5:20pm PDT - save requested by gorgonheap.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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this article in the Washington Post called HOUSE OF CARDS gives an very indepth history of Peter Paul, his associate Aaron Tonkin and their relationship with Clinton, their history and how the fundraiser came about and went down.

While I felt the author was fair to the everyone in the article, after reading it I felt even less inclined to believe most of the assertions Peter Paul makes in this video.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100401150_pf.html

the author of the article then did a live blog about it here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/10/07/DI2005100701231.html

after watching the video take a read and then decide if what he is presenting here seems like the whole story.


written by qruel  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Tedbater wrote: "If she's elected...I'm leaving the county.

Don't know if this will make it on LiberalSift...but we'll see..."


Yes, she is a piece of crap... she takes her orders from the same power hungry people that all of the other CFR candidates and the Bush's and administration appointees are a part of.

If any of you believe this left vs. right slander party, then you are as gullible as a lemming. This rivaly.. this division of the people of the US is exactly what they prey upon.

Divide and Conquer is the saying, isn't it?

This being said, I advise you to not trust these CFR candidates. Left or Right. They have the same ultimate agenda. America's sovereignty will be destroyed if they are allowed to persist. You've been warned, but from what I've seen in the past, you will not heed the warning. Many would sell out their own country while waving the flag it seems. It's a shame. We were given something great and it seems it may all be for nothing if the law of the land is ripped apart by the Neo "Libs" and the Neo "Cons".

The only party I can possibly trust are the Libertarians. The other candidates seem to prey on your desire for entertainment. It's pathetic.

Yesterday I posted a video of Giuliani giving a medal to Rockefeller - which had created and controlled the CFR and Trilateral just to name a few and was one of the top advisors to the Bilderberg meetings (Hillary also attended these). Not a single person voted on it even though these were words right out of the ex-mayor of NYC during 9/11... the same one that shipped the remains of the WTC to Communist China under armed guard. Not a single person voted on this. Was it because it was so blatently obvious? I think it's fear.

^upvote to save this pathetic display of partisan politics.


written by Constitutional_Patriot  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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qruel??? are you the kind of person who would rather talk for hours about meaningless crap, still never really having a genuine opinion based on simple common sense....always on, and in the defense of, the sides that are so obviously anemic? Hillary Clinton, settle for the cunt if you wish, are you not tired of being told how to have an opinion that is your own?

What will it take for people to see the emperor's stinking birthday suit....You have no Idea what guilty and innocence truly is while inebriated with thinking around corners until the truth is a cloud....get yer head out of yer avatar!


written by choggie  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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sorry man, maybe you'll be the fucker that gets me banned for repeated ad-hom I predict another pathetic response which places the other person in your discussion in a lower state than yourself, for the last word that refreshes, your damaged mind.....


written by choggie  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Hillary Clinton is not a liberal. Neither was Bill.


written by dystopianfuturetoday  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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This whole video is bullshit straight from the mouth of the con-artist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul


written by jwray  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Stealing from SNL:

"Hillary, you ignorant slut..."

Everytime I think about the clintons, I think about that movie "The Grifters"


written by Rotty  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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ALERT ! Pathetic response ahead...
Choggie, don't worry, your ramblings never get old. I hope you never get banned as I need someone to remind me of my senile old grandpa, you've done just fine btw. I know I would miss you and your attacks greatly.

my new favorite saying is now. "get yer head outta your avatar" I like it.

keep em coming gramps...um, I mean choggie.


written by qruel  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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I WILL NOW ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE WITH CHOGGIE

http://www.videosift.com/video/I-will-now-attempt-to-communicate-with-Choggie


written by qruel  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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"If she's elected...I'm leaving the county"

no, no, stay in your own country you dirty immigrant, we don't want you coming to our countries and taking our jobs. What goes around comes around.


written by 8578  | 1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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*promote, so people can see why she's a mistake.


written by gorgonheap  | 1 year 10 months ago | CH
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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Saturday, December 15th, 2007 2:02pm PST - promote requested by gorgonheap.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 10 months ago | CH
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qruel you are completely and utterly thick to a point that is utterly embarasssing to the human race.

Go vote for Hilary.

Go on.

I fucking DARE ya.


written by Irishman  | 1 year 10 months ago | CH
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Dear America:

Don't vote for Clinton.

Sincerely
-World


written by Fedquip  | 1 year 10 months ago | CH
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This is funny, when it comes to voter fraud:

On the one hand we have:
People in Florida being listed as felons because people in other states have similar names. They are denied their legal right to vote by American authorities holding guns and when their elected representatives go to congress to stick up for them. They are denied their legal right to be heard and are laughed out of what is suppoed to be one of our most sacred American spaces. All of it well documented and undeniable by anyone with eyes to look.

On the other hand we have:
A video posted about person convicted of fraud who "swears" that Hillary is "crooked". That's it. That's all.

What are we arguing about? Why should people be concerned about Hillary in the light of what's already taken place? As if it's going to matter to anyone besides Rush, Bill and Ann.

I don't like Hillary Clinton either. I liked McCain for a while simply because he appeared to have a sense of humor which would lead someone to believe he might be human. Even five minutes of research for the other side proves this to be untrue.

In the end, why don't we just all finally admit that it doesn't matter who we vote for? That when it comes down to what happens behind the scenes, no one person can really have a good idea of a presidents true impact.

Call me pessimistic but all of your arguments and your getting upset about other peoples beliefs all seems pretty pointless. Your all talking about people who are probably guilty of much bigger crimes than anyone will really be able to prosecute them for.


BTW, for the baiters: most of this comes verbatim from my friends in the US Army.


written by Ryjkyj  | 1 year 10 months ago | CH
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*promote

Yes, Peter Paul was convicted of attempting to defraud the Cuban government in Anti-Castro activities (very common among the Cuban American community here in Miami, believe me I grew up and currently live there), however I thought the US government was supposed to hate Communist Cuba anyway, so I really think that's a moot point in this.

Believe me the Clinton's would LOVE to blind you to the truth of the matter by throwing shiny objects around like a mistake the man made almost 30 years ago (sounds a lot like what the media is doing with Obama these days too *jangles keys in front of America's face*). LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. Same old politics, same old shit.

Don't be sidetracked and pay attention to what they're saying and realize that both Clintons have law degrees... how else do you think they avoided being destroyed by all of their massive amounts of wrongdoing in the past? By exploiting loopholes and shutting it down before it gets to them, or pawning the blame off on other people.


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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Saturday, February 2nd, 2008 8:47pm PST - promote requested by uhohzombies.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 7 months ago | CH
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*election08 *long


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This video has been flagged as being at least 10 minutes in length - declared long by calvados.

Adding video to channels (Election08) - requested by calvados.


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*dead


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