this washed-up old coot used to have something to say in his rambling. Now he just sounds like an old man that doesn't understand the world anymore. Keep on trying to hold on. Luckily his target audience is just as old and clueless so they can "get it"
am I confusing what he's saying, or are you confusing what he's saying? Or are you confusing the many ways poetry can be interpreted with the poignance celebrated in book reports?
"one is asked to view their total error their life-waste with kindliness, especially if they are aged.
but age is the total of our doing. they have aged badly because they have lived out of focus, they have refused to see.
Yea...but it's a LOT of nothing to say. In the end I think we'll all realize we're full of nothing to say. Until then all you can do is try and relate to somebody...like Carlin. Carlin relating to a demographic I can't relate to at this time in my life. Will I one day not understand something or not tolerate it? Yea, everybody becomes more conservative and stuck on their ideals as they get older. Then they get trapped in their old frame of mind in a changing world.
The only shame is when they TRY and bash things in society because they can't understand anymore, rather than because it doesn't make sense at all.
Don't waste your life bashing things. Yes, Carlin bashes things...doesn't mean we have to pick up the stick and bash back. You don't like him, fine. Does it really matter in the end? Of course not. You think that his fans are clueless and out of touch and we think you're yet another person who thinks they are all above it all. Again, what does it matter?
Just to start this comment off: This is all in the fun of debate. I'm bored at work...it's friday, and I need some stimuli to keep occupied.
I did leave that part out of my quote, and I am glad you bring that up. I'm not bashing on Carlin for being old. Bukowski was an old coot, just as I'll be an old coot (already am to the really young folks).
The poem starts off with: "we are always asked to understand the other person's viewpoint no matter how out-dated foolish or obnoxious.
one is asked to view their total error their life-waste with kindliness, especially if they are aged."
He goes on to explain that, although, we are asked these things, it's not my fault they have aged so poor and lost their connect to the world, it's theirs ("age is the total of our doing"). Carlin definitely hasn't wasted his life. Personally I don't think this poem has anything to do with what I said about Carlin not connecting with the world these days. If it does, then the poem is saying "hey, it's not my fault".
From a young age, probably too young when I think about it, I have been watching Carlin blow people's minds with his famous rants that would touch on relevant things to the times. He shaped my appreciation for social satire and that sense of skepticism but it just seems like with his brand of comedy, if he's not in touch with things (other parts of this routine show this too) then his comedy isn't effective anymore.
Maybe I'm just saddened to see a legend beyond his prime.
Who cares about a lot of nothing? Why do I want to read all that dribble? Bukowski is a moron. I hate poetry like that. Bleg. Can we stop quoting shit now?
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I see nothing to disagree with here. For the most part, he is entirely correct. White culture appropriates so much from other cultures, and the result is largely disingenuous, insincere garbage. But that's not to say there aren't white musicians who come from a background which would lead them to have, and play, the blues.
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GENIUS and completely true.
I think you're confusing what Bukowski was saying there bubby. Go back and try to read it again.
"one is asked
to view
their total error
their life-waste
with
kindliness,
especially if they are
aged.
but age is the total of
our doing.
they have aged
badly
because they have
lived
out of focus,
they have refused to
see.
not their fault?
whose fault?
mine?"
The only shame is when they TRY and bash things in society because they can't understand anymore, rather than because it doesn't make sense at all.
"age is no crime
but the shame
of a deliberately
wasted
life
among so many
deliberately
wasted
lives
is."
Don't waste your life bashing things. Yes, Carlin bashes things...doesn't mean we have to pick up the stick and bash back. You don't like him, fine. Does it really matter in the end? Of course not. You think that his fans are clueless and out of touch and we think you're yet another person who thinks they are all above it all. Again, what does it matter?
Oh, and fricken LIGHTEN UP.
I did leave that part out of my quote, and I am glad you bring that up. I'm not bashing on Carlin for being old. Bukowski was an old coot, just as I'll be an old coot (already am to the really young folks).
The poem starts off with:
"we are always asked
to understand the other person's
viewpoint
no matter how
out-dated
foolish or
obnoxious.
one is asked
to view
their total error
their life-waste
with
kindliness,
especially if they are
aged."
He goes on to explain that, although, we are asked these things, it's not my fault they have aged so poor and lost their connect to the world, it's theirs ("age is the total of our doing"). Carlin definitely hasn't wasted his life. Personally I don't think this poem has anything to do with what I said about Carlin not connecting with the world these days. If it does, then the poem is saying "hey, it's not my fault".
From a young age, probably too young when I think about it, I have been watching Carlin blow people's minds with his famous rants that would touch on relevant things to the times. He shaped my appreciation for social satire and that sense of skepticism but it just seems like with his brand of comedy, if he's not in touch with things (other parts of this routine show this too) then his comedy isn't effective anymore.
Maybe I'm just saddened to see a legend beyond his prime.
*comedy *standup *blues
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