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Firefox,TechCrunch,video,html,javascript Firefox 3.5 Treats Videos Like Web Pages

Firefox 3.5 Treats Videos Like Web Pages

posted by Deano 5 months 2 weeks ago • 3728 views
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Duration 2 minutes 42 seconds.

Mike Beltzner, director of Firefox, demonstrates the cool new things video will be doing in Firefox 3.5 using HTML 5.

The placement of video within video was very intriguing.

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Mythbust THIS, ie8!


written by arvana  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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Well, I just downloaded the FireFox 3.5 Beta 4 release for my Mac...and now I want to find this page or one like it to test out this functionality! Anyone know where it is?

If you guys are interested in running FireFox 3.5 or any other version and don't want to overwrite your current stable version, see this. IM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS!


written by Jaace  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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Also, I heard the new release Internet Explorer treats objects like women, man.


written by Jaace  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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^ I dig the way you do business, Jaace.


written by shuac  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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he has a blackberry


written by rottenseed  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^Jaace:
Well, I just downloaded the FireFox 3.5 Beta 4 release for my Mac...and now I want to find this page or one like it to test out this functionality! Anyone know where it is?


Dailymotion's going to be supporting this functionality.


written by Zyrxil  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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It's actually HTML5 that's doing the magic, and every single web page and browser will support these features in a year or so. The actual HTML5 standard isn't finalized yet, but Mozilla decided to put some of the key features into their Firefox beta to test, show off and promote HTML5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_5

Dailymotion is indeed one of the video websites promoting HTML5's <video> element, and has a page with a video running on that already up

http://www.dailymotion.com/openvideodemo

You need the Firefox 3.5 Beta to view it though.


written by demon_ix  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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BTW you can easily try the latest Firefox build using a portable version from http://www.portableapps.com.


written by Deano  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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As web developer I believe this is completely useless. It ties web development to one platform. No one is going to build pages specifically for FF3.5s feature set.


written by Farhad2000  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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^But surely this is case of supporting HTML 5? Which will spread to all browsers eventually? I'm pretty certain this is not intended to be a Firefox only feature.


written by Deano  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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This is very cool. I wonder if Google/Youtube would adopt this?
Currently there is YouTube's Chromeless API that tries to let you manipulate Flash Video through Javascript. But it's severely crippled because the player is compiled with AS2.
http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/chromeless_example_1.html


written by dag  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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One of the major points of the HTML5 is to remove the absolute dependence of current Internet video on plug-ins such as Flash and Silverlight.

>> ^Farhad2000:
As web developer I believe this is completely useless. It ties web development to one platform. No one is going to build pages specifically for FF3.5s feature set.

As a web developer, I have no doubt you will learn the new features in HTML5 when the protocol is released, to be able to use them properly.
What I found more interesting is the video player swap, without interrupting the actual stream. At the moment, any attempt to do something like that would involve reloading the embedded object completely, as far as I know.


written by demon_ix  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^demon_ix:
As a web developer, I have no doubt you will learn the new features in HTML5 when the protocol is released, to be able to use them properly.
What I found more interesting is the video player swap, without interrupting the actual stream. At the moment, any attempt to do something like that would involve reloading the embedded object completely, as far as I know.


The HTML5 spec will not be out for a very long time. The same stuff was talked about when the IPv5 spec came out. Look at the adaptation rates of that. Not to mention most sites fail simple WC3 and CSS validation right now.

Apple, Nokia and other firms have spoken against the usage of Ogg codecs handling video and audio. Mostly because they have their own formats to protect and promote, like Quicktime.

Just color me skeptical.


written by Farhad2000  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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BTW I don't know wtf Microsoft is thinking with not supporting Windows 2000. Is it really too hard to run Silverlight on that platform?

But from what I can see this looks alot more interesting with actual benefits for the end user.


written by Deano  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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But why would you want to do half of this?

I mean who watches a video rotated to 45 degrees with an edge filter on? Do people do that just because they can, or because they want to?

Looks like all bells and whistles to me.


written by Hybrid  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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My internets are videos?


written by potchi79  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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worthless bloat.


written by gorillaman  | 5 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^Hybrid:
But why would you want to do half of this?

I mean who watches a video rotated to 45 degrees with an edge filter on? Do people do that just because they can, or because they want to?

Looks like all bells and whistles to me.


Those sorts of things look a bit silly but there seems more to it than eye-candy. You can also include links and text and make applications using video more interactive. And it's still early days for HTML 5.


written by Deano  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^gorillaman:
worthless bloat.


"Bloat" as criticism, ironic when a big reason people are looking forward to this HTML5 functionality is because non-flash based players get better performance, and as a part of HTML 5, it would potentially be just as widely compatible (or more so).

Other reasons:
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/google-dailymotion-endorse-html-5-and-standards-based-video.ars


written by Zyrxil  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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Great, now video-hosting sites can embed code, sponsored by advertisers, that runs frame-by-frame pattern recognition, and blocks out competitors products, or products that haven't paid the proper tithes to the video-host.

Yay!


written by KnivesOut  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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I admit the idea is good, the problem is java stopped playing by the sandbox rules a few years ago. Until that's fixed it's something I wouldn't want to trust with all the vulnerabilities floating around. This just screams "abuse me."

I suppose I'll wait and see how it develops. Interesting none the less, with a great deal of potential as well. It'll be interesting to see how it goes, especially with MS pushing Silverlight as the "new" video streaming format, and flash10 having piles of issues right now.


written by Mashiki  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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the resizing videos is pretty useful, but all those shitty iMovie-esque video "edit" tools are all cheap crap.


written by mkknyr  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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The fact that a lot of the demo effects aren't all that useful isn't the point — this is a new open standard that developers can apply all kinds of creativity to, and who knows what great new ideas and technologies will evolve out of it?

Having developed in Flash / Actionscript I can tell you it's a real pain getting Flash and Javascript to play nice together. It's like they're speaking different languages...


written by arvana  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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^Word.


written by dag  | 5 months 1 week ago | CH
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