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Dear Lily

posted by Hex 1 month 3 weeks ago • 1444 views
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"This week Lily Allen’s views on file-sharing have been the hot topic. While some agree with her calls to ’save’ the industry from a fate worse than death, others did not subscribe to the doomsday scenario. One of those is UK musician Dan Bull who has written a brilliant song-come-open letter to Miss Allen. We hope you enjoy it."
From torrentfreak

For those who do not know the full story here are the stories from torrentfreak
http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-heroine-lilly-allen-is-a-copyright-hypocrite-090921/
http://torrentfreak.com/lily-allen-pirates-music-is-clueless-about-copyright-090923/
http://torrentfreak.com/lily-allen-deletes-pro-copyright-blog-and-ends-career-090924/
http://torrentfreak.com/lily-allen-changes-tune-now-wants-to-throttle-pirates-090925/
http://torrentfreak.com/a-brilliant-open-letter-song-to-lily-allen-on-piracy-090926/

Well worth it to read her FAIL

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Lily*

This was a clever song. I couldn't care either way if she stops or continues making her music, though.


written by EndAll  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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that'd be "song-cum-open letter"; it's Latin -- yes, and here come the snickers

/grammarnazi


written by calvados  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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*promote


written by eric3579  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Sunday, September 27th, 2009 11:12am PDT - promote requested by eric3579.


written by siftbot  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Politics aside, I never really got why people liked her in the first place.


written by dystopianfuturetoday  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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*snickers*
>> ^calvados:
that'd be "song-cum-open letter"; it's Latin -- yes, and here come the snickers

/grammarnazi


I love the verse that incorporates all her song titles. Well done, Dan Bull.


written by gwiz665  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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love both lilly and him. wicked song


written by yourhydra  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Dan Bull !


written by deathcow  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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this is good stuff


written by rottenseed  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Well, that was friggen brilliant.

I do enjoy Lilly Allen's stuff, it's catchy and good to listen to indeed. And this... This is a wonderful way to rebut her current cries against file sharing. She seems to be young and quick to become opinionated on something, so maybe she didn't really think it through and maybe things like this might set it straight. Things like people just swearing abuse at her won't, but something this clever, this nicely done... well, how could it not make you think? Or at least smile a bit?


written by spoco2  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Having just said what I did above... I've always been torn about filesharing in general and people trying to justify doing it.

I do it... but I know it's wrong really.

If I download music or a movie and I enjoy it, how is it right that I not be giving the artist compensation for that work?

Most people who copy stuff will say 'Yeah, but the artist doesn't get much anyway, it's the evil record/movie companies that get most of the money, so fuck them'.

Except that doesn't solve the problem does it? Just because you don't like the corporations, not getting any money to the artist doesn't solve a thing.

Other people say 'music/information should be free man'. Um... ok, but then how do those who make said music or information make a living? Hmmm, if they're not paid for the thing they spend time creating and others do enjoy consuming... how are they supposed to make money?

And if you say 'well, they should tour and make money that way', then get stuffed. I KNOW they CAN make money that way, and do, but there are those who produce music in ways that don't translate to live shows, and then it only works for those that are in the areas where the acts do tour. So you're saying it's ok for those outside those areas to consume the music for free and not give the artist anything just because they live in some area that bands don't tour? Riiight.

Definitely there's arguments for using filesharing better than it is, definitely there are arguments for throwing god awful DRM out the window, definitely there are arguments for looking at different ways of delivering music and movies to people, but just saying to all 'have at it' is not the answer either.

If you think you're entitled to music and movies and books for free (not lent, but to keep), and that the creators of those works deserve no compensation for their work, then you're a fool.

If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!


written by spoco2  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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great song.

*promote


written by MycroftHomlz  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Monday, September 28th, 2009 10:40am PDT - promote requested by MycroftHomlz.


written by siftbot  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Great stuff.

Meanwhile, a week after announcing her 'retirement', Lily is announced as headline act for Australia and NZ's Big Day Out:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/music/out-of-retirement-lily-allen-to-perform-at-bdo/2009/09/29/1253989900945.html


written by kymbos  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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Tags for this video have been changed from 'dan bull, lilly allen, copyright, Dear Lily, BRILLIANT' to 'dan bull, lily allen, copyright, Dear Lily, BRILLIANT' - edited by EndAll


written by siftbot  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^spoco2:

If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!


Use P2P to promote your music the Nine Inch Nails way.

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15124

$750,000 from the special edition straight in to their pocket minus the cost of producing the package and shipping.

There was another story that I can't find a link to of a San Franciscan musician who languished for years ignored by big labels until he put his music up on P2P with his email address. Within days he started receiving requests to play live with offers of appearence fees, travel costs covered etc. Overnight he went from untouchable by labels to making a pretty fine living travelling and making his music. He has never sold a CD or single.

Another good read is:

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=rIYYW8s1GvkC&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=musician+using+p2p+to+book+live+shows&source=bl&ots=s2HPom0-Gt&sig=rqi8GxI94pa-XKL0Uwg-2I0WhMI&hl=en&ei=a-3BSrD6EseBkQXGrIm1BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=musician%20using%20p2p%20to%20book%20live%20shows&f=false

Chapter 13 (sry bout the huge link, google books is a bit meh ; )

Obviously, some people don't have the know how or don't want to spend the time to manage their own affairs to maximise their profits, but it's a very viable business and people are using it.


written by Asmo  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^Asmo:
>> ^spoco2:

If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!


Use P2P to promote your music the Nine Inch Nails way.

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15124

$750,000 from the special edition straight in to their pocket minus the cost of producing the package and shipping.


That really only works if you're already famous (most likely due to a record label's promotions). An unknown band would be lucky to get $75 straight in to their pocket, much less enough to actually live on.

Say what you like, the recording industry does do one thing -really- well...promote their goods. Well, two things, if you count ripping off their artists.


written by Stormsinger  | 1 month 3 weeks ago | CH
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