Breaking: Oklahoma Highway Patrolman Fights with EMT 5/28/09
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Stumble ThisOklahoma, May 28, 2009 - In what appears to be a struggle that endangered the safety of nearby citizens rather than preserved it, Oklahoma highway police pull over an ambulance rushing a patient to the hospital because the ambulance drivers refused to move over for the police. What follows is an altercation between EMT workers and police officers while the family of the ambulance patient gets caught in the middle.
The altercation that kicks off this insane story begins at around ~1:43 in the video.
This clip is raw video shot by the patient's son. WUSA 9 has more news on this story including witness statements.
The altercation that kicks off this insane story begins at around ~1:43 in the video.
This clip is raw video shot by the patient's son. WUSA 9 has more news on this story including witness statements.
"OHP says before the home video was recording, the paramedic assaulted the state trooper.
Witness Diana Walkup says the paramedic never touched anyone until the patrolman grabbed his arm."
There is a lot more info there, but I still have no idea why the ambulance was pulled over in the first place...
After I got my relatives safe, I'd go hunt down the captian of these two officers, and HELL would be just three steps behind me. I'd get a lawyer, to sue the officers for endangerment in civil court, and then criminal by a DA.
That is unexcusable. very unprofessional on the part of police officers. And REALLY not the norm of police officers. While out here in MA, officers are pretty professional. I would think Oklamhoma is the same way.
Of course if it is critical condition they discover, they should escort ambulance to hospital and then deal with nonsense.
Lights and sirens do not mean you can break the law, regardless of what cops think.
These cops are clearly in a rage. Checkout that choke hold, is that one that is taught at the academy? And the cop says "your under arrest", then he lets the EMT go, thats not how its supposed to work. If your under arrest, then thats it, theres no unarresting.
Also, the police never ask about the patient... they dont care! They are mad with rage thinking that the ambulance driver disrespected them by not getting out of their way.
Fire those cops before they kill somebody, if they havent already.
You take off your boots before jumping on a trampoline.
Whats the difference between a dead cop and a trampoline?
You take off your boots before jumping on a trampoline.
Somebody been playing madlibs?
What's the difference between a dead profession and a noun?
You take your noun off before verbing on a noun
Lights and sirens do not mean you can break the law, regardless of what cops think.
Im not sure how it works in the US, but in Australia, that's not the case.
There a special provision in the roads act that allows emergency vehicles to disregard all road rules in the event that they are en` route to a critical situation. Rushing someone to hospital covers that.
This is completely unacceptable.
>> ^imstellar28:
Whats the difference between a dead cop and a trampoline?
You take off your boots before jumping on a trampoline.
Somebody been playing madlibs?
What's the difference between a dead profession and a noun?
You take your noun off before verbing on a noun
What's the difference between a geologist and a car?
you take your hair off before swimming on a shoelace.
Your mockery fails
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0509/627284.html
Tulsa - The paramedic involved in a confrontation with an Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper caught on a cell phone camera says he doesn't expect any charges to be filed against him.
Maurice White, Jr. is the critical care paramedic seen in the video that has created quite a stir not only here in eastern Oklahoma, but all over the nation.
The video shows the aftermath of a traffic stop that took place while the Creek Nation ambulance was taking a patient suffering from heat exhaustion to the hospital. The ambulance was pulled over by the trooper because troopers say the driver failed to yield to his patrol car.
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White posted a message on NewsChannel 8's message board Friday morning, responding to the many questions our viewers have had.
He says quote, "I assure you that time and the trooper's dash cam will clarify everything."
He says the reason he got out of the ambulance in the first place was because he believed a person in the trooper's car was in need of medical attention.
"It was the fact that the trooper was approached at such a high rate of speed, and driving so erratically, I assumed that the woman in the front seat of the cruiser dressed in civilian clothing needed immediate help," white says. "That is why I initially stepped from the rear of the unit."
Troopers have accused White of assaulting them prior to the confrontation caught on the cell phone camera. That's something only the trooper's dash camera may be able to clarify.
Alright, lets see this end in some firings and then ... you know what? i bet the ambulance driver would squash it with a handshake, because he's not a fucking dick
What fuckn bullshit. Its a god damn ambulance! Of course its going to go fast and worry about somebody dieing in the back. What the hell is this?
What's the difference between a dead profession and a noun?
You take your noun off before verbing on a noun
I'd prefer it if you kept your noun on, thank you.
Lights and sirens are not generally used for transporting patients with heart troubles. They have a nasty tendency to exacerbate them.
>> ^joedirt:
Technically the ambulance had NO lights or sirens and entered in intersection with a cop with sirens, and then proceeded not to pull over. However after they should have just proceeded to escort ambulance and then deal with them at hostpital.
That's not what happened. The police car did not have its siren running--just its lights. According to all the reports filed, it pulled up behind the ambulance at a very high speed and kept pace with it three feet from the rear bumper. The police car had approached too quickly for the ambulance driver to have noted his approach, and given the boxy shape of an ambulance, it's impossible for the driver to see someone so close. (This is also why you don't pull up that close behind semi-trucks, as well.) The first the driver saw the cruiser was when it whipped around the ambulance and passed.
The police cruise had been en route to assist another officer, but the situation was apparently resolved before they arrived; a couple of miles later, the cruiser pulled the ambulance over. It was not unreasonable at all for the paramedics to assume that there was some sort of emergency in the cruiser itself; it is not standard practice to pull over ambulances. Instead, the procedure is to contact the operator to find out what hospital the ambulance is going to and meet them there.
The rest is on the video.
>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^imstellar28:
Whats the difference between a dead cop and a trampoline?
You take off your boots before jumping on a trampoline.
Somebody been playing madlibs?
What's the difference between a dead profession and a noun?
You take your noun off before verbing on a noun
What's the difference between a geologist and a car?
you take your hair off before swimming on a shoelace.
Your mockery fails
I think it was brilliant, poetic, and probably pretty fun, no?
I've got another one:
Why don't you go fthe letter uck yourself
Especially when you get the "facts" from the victim.
I love the internet, how everyone knows everything about a situation and knows everything about the video.
Especially when you get the "facts" from the victim.
And the video.
And the accounts of the woman being transported to the hospital.
And the accounts of her family members.
And the uninvolved witness accounts (nearby pedestrians).
>> ^Dranzerk:
I love the internet, how everyone knows everything about a situation and knows everything about the video.
Especially when you get the "facts" from the victim.
And the video.
And the accounts of the woman being transported to the hospital.
And the accounts of her family members.
And the uninvolved witness accounts (nearby pedestrians).
1. The video is shot by the victim(s).
2. The woman was in the ambulance, hence victim.
3 The family that was not at the scene, so unreliable.
4. witnesses that don't know the situation as to why they got pulled over to begin with, also known as unreliable witnesses.
It obviously is being played out more than it is, because if it was a real emergency the EMT would of not even stopped and continued to the hospital like they normally do. For the guy to say "I thought he had someone that needed medical attention" in the police car shows it was not as bad as the EMT says the person it the ambulance was.
If your under arrest, then thats it, theres no unarresting.
"By the power vested in me by --insert government body-- you're arrested."
"By the power vested in me by --insert government body-- you're unarrested."
See how that works? Yes it really is that simple. I really enjoy threads like this, it points out how many people really don't have a freaking clue how laws, and policing work.
>> ^KamikazeCricket:
>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^imstellar28:
Whats the difference between a dead cop and a trampoline?
You take off your boots before jumping on a trampoline.
Somebody been playing madlibs?
What's the difference between a dead profession and a noun?
You take your noun off before verbing on a noun
What's the difference between a geologist and a car?
you take your hair off before swimming on a shoelace.
Your mockery fails
I think it was brilliant, poetic, and probably pretty fun, no?
I've got another one:
Why don't you go fthe letter uck yourself
Those who call themselves brilliant are typically perceived as the opposite by everyone else. The fact that you got all butt-hurt over my comment shows just how pretentious you really are. Oh, and no, it was not funny, nor poetic, and certainly not brilliant. Go die in a fire.
>> ^csnel3:
If your under arrest, then thats it, theres no unarresting.
"By the power vested in me by --insert government body-- you're arrested."
"By the power vested in me by --insert government body-- you're unarrested."
See how that works? Yes it really is that simple. I really enjoy threads like this, it points out how many people really don't have a freaking clue how laws, and policing work.
You didn't quote my whole statement, I said " And the cop says "your under arrest", then he lets the EMT go, thats not how its supposed to work. If your under arrest, then thats it, theres no unarresting"
I realize that cops will do anything they want regardless of the law, and then let the lawyers work it out later. But when he unnarested him , He is admitting it was a bad arrest and/or he learned new facts and decided he had made a bad arrest. Watching the video , I don't see the officer learning any new facts, He is just backing down from a bad rage induced arrest.Police shouldnt arrest someone and grab them by the throat in an illegal choke hold and then pretend it did't happen.
Thats not the way its supposed to work!!
>> ^Mashiki:
.
"By the power vested in me by --insert government body-- you're arrested."
"By the power vested in me by --insert government body-- you're unarrested."
See how that works? Yes it really is that simple. I really enjoy threads like this, it points out how many people really don't have a freaking clue how laws, and policing work.
Maskiki, Thats complete bullshit!In some states the arresting officers supervisor would be needed to "unarrest" somebody.
Laws vary from state to state.
You sound like you are trying to prove your own point on people not knowing what they are talking about. Good job.
The comments released by the police investigation so far clearly state the ambulance DID NOT HAVE SIRENS OR LIGHTS ON. Period.
Also, it is a felony to assault EMT while on duty. I'm sure the cops won't get charged however...
law$uit. cha-ching. fucking pigs.
Indeed. The upside for the family would be a fat check from the state of OK.
>> You sound like you are trying to prove your own point on people not knowing what they are talking about. Good job.
I've probably have a better idea of how the legal system works in the US and Canada than you do. AP, SN, APDN, JDR, RECG, PTAP all work at the will of the officer. Whether that be at the street level or at the station. Thanks for proving you just don't have a clue on what you're talking about.
>> ^csnel3:
>> You sound like you are trying to prove your own point on people not knowing what they are talking about. Good job.
I've probably have a better idea of how the legal system works in the US and Canada than you do. AP, SN, APDN, JDR, RECG, PTAP all work at the will of the officer. Whether that be at the street level or at the station. Thanks for proving you just don't have a clue on what you're talking about.
You win! you had me with the BFD, OMG ,STFU, WTF,arguments.Everything these cops did is 100% kosher, And you, sir, are a valued member of F.A.G.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526128,00.html
The trooper Daniel Martin ended up getting 5 days unpaid suspension for his role in the incident. Which, given the Good Old Boy system so prominent in Oklahoma, is probably about all you can expect. They should have taken the guy off patrols, but they didn't.
As a result, he's now under investigation for a second incident this year. Apparently, he beat a man with a nightstick for no reason. I wish I could say that I'm shocked they didn't put him on desk duty, but that's Oklahoma for you.
The police force always has less money then it needs especially in human resources. MOST of the budget goes to stupid contractual shit pushed forward by private firms (guns/detectors/etc).
Not a job market that attracts good people.