Anyone know what was meant by the comment "the illegal M-249"? How is one of the most prolific weapons in the US arsenal illegal? Almost every 8-man squad has one.

I believe that's one of the weapons that are, according to one of the addendums to the Geneva Conventions, not supposed to be used against personnel, but only against vehicles (like .50 cal machineguns). I could be wrong, though.

oh yea i forgot about the allegations that thier funds/employees were involved somehow with fucking kids, in addition to killing indiscriminately... that was a good one.

stuff like this makes me lose my faith in this country

>> ^Skeeve:
Anyone know what was meant by the comment "the illegal M-249"? How is one of the most prolific weapons in the US arsenal illegal? Almost every 8-man squad has one.


It's illegal for civilians. Like, completely. It wasn't manufactured early enough even for registered models to be grandfathered in. For a civilian to own one, it has to be disabled and unable to fire.

>> ^mxxcon:
stuff like this makes me lose my faith in this country


What, you think that you can have a war without unnecessary civilian casualties? What makes these mercs different from the government who started this war in the first place? With a pull of the trigger or a stroke of the pen the end result is the same: innocent people are going to die. You think it makes any difference to the victims' families whether their loved ones were intentionally murdered by blackwater mercs or died as collateral damage from the American army?

In fact, this is much less worse than the bombing campaigns in Korea, Vietnam, or WWII, or America's use of bio and nuclear WMDs. I'd rather get shot to death than to die in a fiery hell from napalm, or rot to death from the bubonic plague, or get my face melted off from a nuclear blast and then die from leukemia years later.

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The company and Prince should be tried for war crimes.

>> ^mentality:
>> ^mxxcon:
stuff like this makes me lose my faith in this country

What, you think that you can have a war without unnecessary civilian casualties? What makes these mercs different from the government who started this war in the first place? With a pull of the trigger or a stroke of the pen the end result is the same: innocent people are going to die. You think it makes any difference to the victims' families whether their loved ones were intentionally murdered by blackwater mercs or died as collateral damage from the American army?
In fact, this is much less worse than the bombing campaigns in Korea, Vietnam, or WWII, or America's use of bio and nuclear WMDs. I'd rather get shot to death than to die in a fiery hell from napalm, or rot to death from the bubonic plague, or get my face melted off from a nuclear blast and then die from leukemia years later.


i wasn't commenting so much on atrocities they've done but the fact that the whole organization from the very bottom to the very top is structured to encourage and cover up these crimes.
and the fact that US Gov't still support this organization
and the fact that there is no measurable public outcry against blackwater or gov't officials that are not acting stop this.

this country needs some of that sense of responsibility and shame that is so common in japan's society.
90% of our elected officials should commit public seppuku.

My cousin in currently a sniping instructor for Blackwater (or whatever the new company name is), but he has served 6 or 7 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan for the company. I've never been comfortable with the fact that he is essentially a mercenary, but god I hope he wasn't involved in some of this stuff. He's a good person and certainly this is not indicative of all Blackwater soldiers, but "mob mentality" and positions of authority over other humans has the power to corrupt anyone (the Stanford Prison Guard Experiment, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment).

Nothing will ever come of this. These murderers will of course get off scott free.

I would not be surprised if they were paid to plan and perpetrate the 9/11 "attacks."

look up:
"the three mistakes of paul bremer"
then think for a second that blackwater is not under the UCMJ.
they are paid for by tax dollars.
ran by a fundamentalist christian,or so purported.
whose executives read like a who's-who from the PNAC.
who believes he is on a mission from god.
to kill muslims.
the list goes on..but yeah..its pretty sickening.