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But you can't have a beer with elites!
Yes, you can, but it has to be Shamay.
Are the statistics true?
Yes, the DOJ has (or at least had at one time) 150 graduates from Regent working there.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/06/AR2007040601799.html
Yes, you can, but it has to be Shamay.
Did you mean Chimay?
Crap, I've exposed myself...
>> ^kronosposeidon:
But you can't have a beer with elites!
Yes, you can, but it has to be Shamay.
You mean Schmawy? Damn. I always knew he was elitist. You can tell by his top hat.
*promote already~?
Oh...And Fuck Bill Marrrrr, a TOOOL!
The best thing that could happen to this thread is for all attention to be diverted from Bill's brand of worthless tripe, and focused on real solutions to whatever problems... kronosposeidon has with what is true, false, or fuckig meaningless....after all, you make the demand, I simply giggle and snikker at the same.....
GO GO ELLIPSIS... ... ...
Watch out people, there ain't no rules that can tame this wild stallion.
^What the fuck is wrong with you, choggie? Is your sister asking you for a divorce? I don't give a fuck if you promoted it a minute later; you're not supposed to do this shit and you know it. Quit playing discard games with other persons' videos.
Hey, leave that troll alone!
He dont need no tactful responses
Only nonsense blathering in the comments
Hey! Elitists! Leave them trolls alone
Welcome to Rapture everybody!
http://www.videosift.com/video/OMG-They-Cloned-Pat-Robertson
Mini-zealot?
We can get a beer... or just about any thing we want.
Yeah Maher may be an arrogant prick but who else is even bringing this to people's attention? Has Jon Stewart picked up on this? Sad to have to resort to a comedy show for serious political reporting but again, who else is even talking about this abomination?
And remember, there's still a long time between now and the election. Don't put it past Bush to do something nightmarish as a last gasp to usher in Armageddon - Bush is a True Believer in every sense of the phrase folks.
I wonder if the world would be worse if lead by liberal intelligentsia.
Welcome to Rapture everybody!
You're talking about Bioshock, right? Rapture wasn't run by the liberal intelligentsia. It's an objectivist/libertarian paradise.
When I say, elite fighting force, or elite quake 3 player, I mean someone who is a cut above the rest. He is stonger faster or smarter than a majority of his peers. That is what it means when we all refer to the word elite.
But the idea of elitism is something comletely different. elitism is the idea that someone or more often times, a group of someones are above other people in a sence of power over them. Like the ruling class over the working class; the nature of their elitism is seldom benevolent and more often times is used to describe an explotive relationship. The text book definition is more subtly in these ideas stating more that it is a group of peoples set apart for their intellectual, social, or cultural categories. But implicit in the definition is also its power over the non-elite.
The reason I draw this out is that I think he is making a terrible case of equating the denotative meaning of elitism and not the conotative meaning. The text book meaning is much different than what people mean by elitism in todays lingo, and he is using a logical falacy to bind the two seperate ideas into one so he can show some false truth about the way elitism is really good.
Bad form bad form.
He then goes on to blast people for graduating from a rank 4 facility...because we all know that little peices of paper from prestidgious univercities are the mark of TRUE intellence. This doesn't have to do with his own personal bias im sure, being a graduate of Cornell University in 1978 surely doesn't have anything to do with his view on what it takes to call yourself an intelegent human being. As we all know, Albert Einstein graduated with top honors while also taking his Munich based family bisiness to the top of german economy! O wait, thats not what happend at all...seems like mesuring intelegence might have more to do with people and less to do with peices of paper...who knew!
Sorry for that bit of sarcasm. I just hate it when people get attacked on a personal level because of where they have been or what background education they have. It seems to be ok to be a bigot now adays as long as it is for politics. Sad state of afairs when the people on the sift are more civil and comunicative than the supposed elite.
Maher's problem with the Messiah College graduates is that they're being handed the top jobs in government despite having no work experience and only bottom-tier academic records.
Use spell checker.
^Logical fallacies aren't so simple. Maher is arguing the modern "elitism" criticism is just attacking people for being "elite."
Maher's problem with the Messiah College graduates is that they're being handed the top jobs in government despite having no work experience and only bottom-tier academic records.
Use spell checker.
heheh ya, sorry about the spelling. Firefox usually does it for me, but I'm on ie 7 atm
I think I understand the content of your retort, but it doesn't seem to hold weight when I view the content a second and third time. The idea that he trys to merge is that being elite is a good thing and trys to make that into what the idea of elitism corresponds to. Or in other words, if you are a top mind in your feild, you are elite. If you are elite, you have nothing to be ashamed of (which I agree with). And if you are elite, that makes you also subject to the term elitism which isn't a bad thing, but just a relation to your being in the elite status of your field.
This, of course, could be something that is lost in translation and I would offer my retraction if he was just asserting that this is just an inflammatory statment.
It wasn't the academic record he was attacking at all, but the location of their education...unless the statment "where else can you find people dumb enough to belive in bush but in XXX location school" is ment to be some attack on that persons actual acedimic record? That doesn't sound like a list of their GPA, what if they graduated with honors and had 15 years of public service? We don't get those facts, just the ones that paint them as mindless trolls regardless of anything to back up this claim other than they atended xxx school.
It doesn't take a degree from XXX school in the studies of YYY to make you a genious or an idiot. If he would of just said this person is incompatant because their actions hold to it, that would be a valid assertions. But there are all sorts of Yale and harvard people out there making mistake after mistake, but no one would dare call Yale or Harvard the breading grounds of fools and idiots. Fools and idiots are everywhere, and people also make mistakes, some major. In that, wide sweeping alagations of people being morons because they went to a certain school isn't reasonable in the least; and I think is an obvious indication of his personal bias.
Thanks for your comments though, I always enjoy a differnt point of view, and you are welcome to respond to this, always like a good conversations. Perhaps I am making a mountain out of a mole hill because most likely he is just playing to the crowd and trying to insite some cheap thrills from berating his opposite demographics side.