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Great post, wonderfully written. You should be a professor of something! I agree with Maher. The Media is always telling us women are better at everything and how its wonderful, to the point that kids are being thought where I live that there is no such thing as masculinity, men have no "character" they are merely robots programmed by society to (get this) rape, murder, oppress homosexuals, beat their wives and molest children. This is being thought to young men where I live. Mens only hope is the embrace feminism...
The college kid radical feminists of 20 years ago are now running the dept of education here and pushing their own (thoroughly disproved) ideology on the nations young men. Its the young men that will suffer for it, but somehow I dont think feminists will care about that.
evolutionary imperative is not a tactic, and women have the SAME evolutionary imperative as men, they SHARE it with them, being a part of the same species and all.
Look at ants. WOuld you say that the "queen" is denying the evolutionary imperative of other female ants?
Like I said on that "Don't look at her breasts" clip, the world would be a better place if we could all see where other people are looking and hear what they are thinking, because we'd all deal with the fact that some people are gay and a lot of men are perverts and so on and so forth, we'd be comfortable with it and capable of surviving it. Instead, we have people so scared of their own sexuality that they campaign against it, out of denial or fear or whatever and making up stuff like The Devil made me shag that rent boy and get him to set me up with drugs.
Having said that, I think it's important to remind that men are also victims of patriarchy, even as men inherit various powers of entitlement.
Like I said, men are also victims of patriarchy.
I think Greer is problematic on many levels, (specifically she has a remarkable allergy to examinations of class privilege), but she is right to point up that the opposite to patriarchy is not matriarchy but fraternity. I think this is an important point.
The regular impulse of 'power-agents' to silence critics when they feel their entitlement is threatened, like we saw in Maher, is very similar to the predictably scornful, cliched reactions the term "politically correct" commonly engenders:
(from a blog) "The phrase "politically correct" can be used in two distinct ways: either with its original literal meaning, or with the mocking sarcasm that's common these days. I'll get to the former in a moment, but I'll begin with the latter. As it's commonly used, "PC" is a deliberately imprecise expression (just try finding or writing a terse, precise definition) because its objective isn't to communicate a substantive idea, but simply to sneer and snivel about the linguistic and cultural burdens of treating all people with the respect and sensitivity with which they wish to be treated. Thus, the Herculean effort required to call me "Asian American" rather than "chink" is seen as a concession to "the PC police", an unsettling infringement on the free-wheeling conversation of, I suppose, "non-chinks". Having to refer to black folks as "African Americans" rather than various historically-prevalent epithets surely strikes some red-blooded blue-balled white-men as a form of cultural oppression---
---Underlying every complaint of "PC" is the absurd notion that members of dominant mainstream society have been victimized by an arbitrarily hypersensitive prohibition against linguistic and cultural constructions that are considered historical manifestations of bigotry. It's no coincidence that "PC"-snivelers are for the most part white men who are essentially saying, "Who the hell do these marginalized groups think they are to tell me how I should or shouldn't portray them?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXOKMW7sL6I&mode=related&search=
On a side note, I never used to care for Bill Maher. I caught him on The Tonight Show one time and he basically belittled and attacked the main guest of the show (don't remember who it was) with absolutely no provocation from the guest. It didn't occur to me at the time that he may have been using the opportunity to retort a previous altercation; I still don't know the facts behind the attack and probably never will) However, I remember anchoring that and, to this day, it is still the first thing I remember about him. Only recently have I come around to seeing he is a very skilled comedian and debater.
Maher's got a batting average on the "truth" about as good as A-Rod has been playing lately.
No, someone stepped up to the plate and did their best to come up with big words like Cronyx did. It's a little ridiculous.
Next time you might wanna check if the guy you're arguing with has actually BEEN on VideoSift lately before you go swaggering around.
Thank you, Bill, for showing me the way. I can now fill my schedule with a plethora of short torrid love affairs, one night stands and never have crying brats furthering the overpopulation of the world. Kudos!
But it's funny - for such an unremarkable guy, you sure put a lot of thought into it. Had to come on back for three responses.
Yay me!
Most of the folks that are hip and centered, in the U.S., use, with their black, Asian, or Hispanic American friends, colloquial terminology, if referencing their origins for contextual emphasis, endearingly....don't know if you noticed folks, but most of the racism of 40 years ago and beyond in America, has been snuffed with regards to any form of separation of races....it is a new game today, working towards
a new form of ism, based on demographics and citizenship.....and, hello meatbots, race-baiting, class struggle, all the mob-oriented tools are still used by the herders-
Dupes are those who play into it- If one has a lot of baggage, and bitterness, then they will probably be the ones the most upset, when they overhear someone say, "the black dude cross the way", or, "He's that cool Asian cat I met" -personally am honored when cultural heritage is recognized, referenced, or associated in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd person...banter-away(here), of a cracker-ass euro-mutt dago....
....whenever you see the uncomfortable look, in the eyes of someone, if you fail to say "African-American", referring to a brother?, you'd be doing him a favor, to shove that shit, straight back up his ass.....
Agree with the political, economic, and social equality of females-buuut....Feminism-?
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I'm a hardcore feminist, and to me that means that I believe that chicks are awesome and should be treated like people. For the record, I also believe that guys are awesome and should be treated like people.
I disagree with Mahr's assertion that American values have become feminized. I do think American popular culture has increasingly come to value polarized, extremist expressions of gender, with our faux manly war mongering Connecticut-born cowboy in chief on the one hand and increasingly stylized and abstract representations of femininity on the other (Mariah Carey, Anna Nicole, etc.).
I think that what Mahr calls "feminine values" are more accurately attributable to a trend away from personal responsibility. Let's not talk about how to fix things or how to be a good citizen or how to get things done. Let's whine about our feelings and talk about how our children are in terrible danger from sexual predators or tinfoil or whatever the threat of the day may be. It's not that we've all turned into chicks, it's that so many of us have turned into soft bellied unthinking buttmonkeys.
Yes - the correct target of his rant was soft bellied unthinking buttmonkeys. It's akin to the message of SICKO.
@Tofumar - maybe qualm was referring to the "Jew's mouth" part of the video? Or perhaps just some completely other reference to something said outside the vid? But that part of the discussion seems to be rather dead.
I just didn't see anything in this video that seemed particularly racist, and would like to see evidence for the claim that he's said racist things on past shows.
Why is it that not just on tv but in classrooms that I grew up in can someone say females are smarter and get loud applause, but when the same is said for boys you get a negative response? There is much bullshit out there, and while the values he listed at the beginning do not hold for all in their respective sexes it is the 'status quo' in the media and elsewhere.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=33885704
Translation: Men have a "natural" entitlement to power and women need to learn to live with it.