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"WTF! THIS ISN'T 1 (888) BIBLE-NO! ARGG!"
Bible taught as history? omfg
Oprah Winfrey has fainted!
Go Chuck Norris!
Chuck Norris uses roundhouse kick!
It's super effective!
Tom Cruise has fainted!
WHAAAAT?
But hey, nice effort on trying to change the subject.
The idea behind the amendment was to keep the government out of religous activities, not for the government to keep the idea of religon out of the lives of people. Seriously, we are not talking about forced indoctrination.
But, I do believe there should be an option to teach and take this class for whoever wants. As long as there is no prostylizing, there should not be a problem in teaching the bible.
I don't know one person who has gone through public school in the US who has not had some sort of lesson on the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian dieties. Why not teach the Bible in the same way?
Do people actually believe that the general population has such a low IQ as to think they cannot form their own views, just as most have done with those Greek/Roman/Egyptian dieties? I don't see a lot of Americans running around worshiping Zeus or Anubis...
We do not see the ACLU trying to throw away Greek, Roman, and Egyptian history, why then do people wish to throw away such an obvious part of American history.
I'm not trying to start a theological fight, just an educational one. I see no need for the complete abandonment of something that does play a major part in the history of the majority of Americans (regardless of their current beliefs).
I think the point is that the bible is in no-way any kind of accurate depiction of history (except the bit on the first page stating which version, such as King James edition!) History is the facts of our past to the highest level of reality possible (mostly prooven by the science of Archeology - not the beliefs of Theology).
Personally, I'm not keen on the idea of religion in education - I see the two as being mutually exclusive. Although I would never want to force my view on anyone; religion itself does enough of that already. I'd only expect a clear warning as to what 'belief' is to be pushed on my child (I'd never send any of my children to a Catholic school, for example).
Please, don't get the wrong idea; I am not promoting preaching anything.
But, to think that the bible is devoid of historical facts, is a little... wrong. It is full of historical information. Remove the "theological" from it, and it is slap FULL of history.
Again, I am NOT supporting the indoctrination of youth into believing that Jesus was the son of God or anything.
But, the fact remains that those beliefs ARE a large part of the history of the USA. Just as we were taught (in history class) of the different gods of the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian civilizations... why not at least study what is most definatly part of our own?
Explaining a religions ideology is the purpose of priests in the first place; history academics shouldn't take their jobs. The Egyptians, Greeks & Romans are the progression of an ancient civilisations beliefs (as they were living together around the same area and time). They are not practiced in the same way today after almost 6000 years (how many Egyptian high-priests do you know?) - so it's history (even though its concepts live on through modern religion).
I don't mean to be hostile in anyway (it's your country, not mine): I just have strong opinions on religion from knowledge & personal experience. I believe the bible is not a text book for anything other than RE (even then an incomplete one without the cut chapters), as it has no accurate dates it cannot be historical fact; and again ironically, archeology has proved this already!
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Today's word is "literacy." Can you say "literacy?" Oh, apparently not, Mr. Bush.
I remember studying the Iliad and the Odyssey as works of classical fiction and oral tradition. But I'm pretty sure they weren't trying to convince us that if we poked out the eye of God's son, that He would condemn us to years of random adventures on the high seas, only to come home to find our wives cheating on us. Yeah, I'm sure that wasn't part of the lesson.
Why not teach the King James' Bible in the same way we learned about other classical and medieval literature? LOL! Just try to pull a stunt like that in any American primary school and watch the fireworks.
Here's a notion - along with math and reading comprehension requirements for graduation, how about a requirement of knowledge of the world's religions? Maybe we could even have a day of reading verse from the Tao Te Ching.