Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Real Time with Bill Maher

published by jwray

3 months 2 weeks ago • 822 views

tags: somalia, muslim, arranged marriage, holland, member of parliament

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Amazing woman. Beauty, common sense, semantic, and correct.
and I never up-vote BM, can't stand the fooo-

written by choggie

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Bin Laden speaks for Islam as much as The Unabomber speaks for Christianity.

written by Farhad2000

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What about falwell, hagee, robertson, the pope, etc?

The pope's anti-contraception activism has lead to quite a lot of poverty and suffering. The nuts in christianity are more like 30% than 0.1%. The same goes for Islam. You have high-ranking clerics issuing death warrant fatwas over books and cartoons (such as the Iranian head of state, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has wide support among Iranian Muslims still living in Iran and much less support among exiles and emigres)

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Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a opportunistic chameleon that likes to make sweeping generalizations about Arabs and Muslims. She considers all muslims to be of one generic make due to her upbringing in Somalia and time in Saudi Arabia.

Muslims are as diverse as Christians in their beliefs and how far they take them but she never really makes that distinction.

I believe much of her success depends on exactly that, shes made a good life out of attacking this particular religion attaining Dutch citizenship, and now a fellow at the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute.

I recommend reading The Economist's review of her book Infidel. An excerpt relevant to this video:

However, last May a Dutch television documentary suggested that while Ms Hirsi Ali did run away from a marriage, her life was in no danger. The subsequent uproar nearly cost Ms Hirsi Ali her Dutch citizenship, which may be the reason why she is careful here to re-state how much she feared her family when she first arrived in the Netherlands.

But the facts as she tells them about the many chances she passed up to get out of the marriage? How her father and his clan disapproved of violence against women; how relatives already in the Netherlands helped her to gain asylum; and how her ex-husband peaceably agreed to a divorce? Hardly seem to bear her out.

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True spirituality is a process, not an institution-unfortunately, for the symbol-addicted, like most Christians, Muslims, and atheists, they can't see the forest for the goddamn trees-

that, shes made a good life out of attacking this particular religion attaining Dutch citizenship, and now a fellow at the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute.

More power to her, may her tireless survival and livelihood prosper-It is the worthy human being of Islamic faith's responsibility, to keep the faith from keeping her people from being used and abused-same goes for Christians, Jews, Scientologists, or anyone using a system to reach another plateau-faith should serve to unite, not separate, but monkeys are predictable, and consistent.

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Saying "islam is not a religion of peace" is a reasonable interpretation of the Koran. Muhammad was a great conqueror, after all. That does not imply that most muslims are not peaceful, but you seem to take offense on the assumption that she intends that implication.

She makes the valid point that the infamous cartoons spurred more mass-protests by Muslims than any recent beheading perpetrated by Muslim insurgents, but it should have been the other way around.

There's a difference between focusing on the religious nutcases because the nutcases are more newsworthy, and denying the existence of the moderates (The unabomber got a lot more news coverage than my sweet old grandmother but I don't go complaining about the media having a bias against Christianity). Nowhere did she say all Muslims are bad. In her other works she just has criticized its foundation (the Koran) and noted specific abuses, and probably wished for the demise of the religion itself, not its followers. Connecting the dots between terrible things done by a few and passages in the Koran != hating all muslims.

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