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Also, ever notice that there is always a clear audible laugh from someone (usually Giuliani) whenever the host takes a stab at Ron Paul?
they should be thanking Ron Paul, for being the only true fiscal conservative and choosing the Reps over the Dems.
at least the Dems don't claim to be fiscally conservative, and then mask their expenditures by taking out massive international loans, to avoid raising taxes.
it's like a guy going to the loan sharks to pay for a bigscreen TV, because his wife says they can't afford it.
I express no preference for who I think would be best, not my place to say, but I do think Rudy would be worst. The man seems like a classic slimy politician, at least to me. Ok now I have gone too far. Apologies Rudy fans!
(I watched the TV movie where James Woods played Rudy and thought "Wow, Guiliani is a swell guy". Shows what I know!
It is a testament to the skill of Republican propagandists that the phrase 'fiscal conservative' even exists, because it's mythology. It's kind of like Howard Stern calling himself the King of All Media, or Michael Jackson calling himself the King of Pop; it isn't true, but if you say it enough times people will start to believe it. Go ahead and see how many Republicans you can list that actually live up to the rhetoric. Ron Paul is the only Republican on my list.
Same goes for 'smaller government'. Establishment Republicans are only interested in reducing the parts of the government that serve the public, such as education, social security, health, welfare, etc. When is the last time you heard a Republican say "Maybe we don't need another gazillion dollar stealth bomber, we already own more than we know what to do with. Our schools are understaffed and falling apart, maybe the money would be better spent there."? Answer: Never, that would be way too fiscally responsible.
Same goes for personal responsibility. It always cracks me up to see Republicans talk about personal responsibility as they vote themselves another raise. They don't believe in public health care, yet have the most generous publicly funded health care benefits on the planet.
Personal responsibility for the working class only! = Personal responsibility.
Establishment Republicans are afraid of Ron Paul precisely because he actually intends to put these hollow slogans into action, which is a delicious irony.
Establishment Democrats had a similar fear of Howard Dean, who has since infiltrated that establishment, and is now working to change it from the inside. Maybe Ron Paul can do the same.
Imagine what we could accomplish if Democrats and Republicans worked together. We both face an enemy far more dangerous that Osama bin Laden, and that enemy are the corporatist/neo-conservative/neo-liberal carpetbaggers who have corrupted every level of our publicly elected government. Let's take it back.
Also, does anybody have any idea as to why this reporter was bringing all this up? I'd like the context.
From http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/us/politics/05text-rdebate.html:
MR. GIBSON: I'm going to move on to domestic policy, and I'm going to violate a promise that I made to all of your campaigns. I promised that we wouldn't do any questions on videotape -- questions from somebody outside this room -- but I'm going to violate it with a question from the president of the United States, who posed a question that I think is important about all of you -- posed a question at his last news conference about what he thought candidates ought to be as they ran. Take a look.
PRESIDENT BUSH: (From videotape.) You can't be the president unless you have a firm set of principles to guide you as you sort through all the problems the world faces. And I would be very hesitant to support somebody who relied upon opinion polls and focus groups to define a way forward for a president. It is -- and so my question to -- if I were asking questions to people running for office, I'd say: What are the principles that will stand on in good times and bad times? What would be the underpinning of -- of -- of your decisions?
MR. GIBSON: What are the principles, and are they constant? You all have been questioning -- as I've watched you campaign, you've all been questioning your opponents. And I'm going to ask Senator McCain, you and Governor Romney, because you two have been going at each other in interviews and in ads about this, of the constancy of your principles, or whether or not you look to opinion polls and focus groups to make up your minds.
[From here, McCain, Romney and then Giuliani dish forth the usual canned response to things like this, and it's all a set-up to the eventual smack down that Gibson delivers--they're ALL career politicians, they've ALL flip-flopped. It's all an attempt to see if one or more will either 1) admit to the flip-flop or 2) call Bush the Lesser a fool.]
Good transcript posting BTW. Ron Pual, mentioned something about the current way our government spends, cutting taxes, going to war, and borrowing from other countries (mainly china). Which I think is the crux of our economic woes right now. The republicans have been trying to have their cake and eat it too. I'd like to know in what dimension or fairy tale land you can drastically reduce your income while increasing your outgoing by massive proportions all the while borrowing barrels full of money and have everything be A-okay. And what did Fred Thompson say in response? He laughed and derisively ridiculed Paul for suggesting all of that has some how lead to our economic problems. While I think RP's economic strategy swings the pendulum too far in the other direction, something that would cause another kind of economic disaster, to have him laughed at for saying what he did just shows how idiotic and self-serving most of them are.
Imagine there's a candidate who had a strong anti-homosexual stance 15 years ago. Today, having been exposed to other views and increased information, he's a strong believer in gay rights. This is not a flip-flopper. This is someone who has learned from their mistakes.
I'm sure all of us have known someone with a drug problem, even if it's something as small as alcoholism. If someone struggles for years with such a problem, whether it be wine or heroin or anything in between, and finally manages to get themselves clean, nobody accuses them of flip-flopping.
I'm not saying flip-flop is misused in this video; it just brought up a little rant that's been brewing in me for quite a while. On Mitt Romney being a flip-flopper; I don't give a crap about Mitt Romney, so I don't know what he may have "flip-flopped" on. If he is a flip-flopper then he's flopped in the wrong direction as I haven't heard anything come out of his mouth that I can support.
This video is over-edited. I'd have liked to hear some responses or something to give it some substance. This is just a video of some guy calling politicians names.
http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm
Yeah, I got it backwards. GIBSON the drive-by media stooge is the straw man; they're really his accusations but using others' similar comments rather than his own.
Of course all they could do is sit there with stupid grins on their faces because it was all true.
If you look here at the 9:30 mark is what is said after these comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMYJ_vmwRDc
and continues here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08HyUz_AHmQ
You will see that the comments made by Gibson are pretty much ignored and not addressed because except for RP they are all guilty of adjusting their stand on certain issues to fall more in line with the current GOP platform.
I thought being progressive was a good thing.
It's just too bad the majority of voters go with the person that tells them what they want to hear instead of the person that tells them what they need to her.