I was wondering about that plain. There was almost nothing on CNN about it all, as far as I can remember.
The problem is when you try to talk about it - theres no one to have an intelligent conversation with. People don't want to bother with this kind of stuff, most have enough problems in their lives, most are burried in their lives, by the monotony of the media, of the culture...

Alright, I'll bite. Where's the wreckage

It all got sucked into the crater, then the resulting blow-back, scattered all the paper and small pieces, around the ground....the engines were recovered, still miraculously attached to an entire airplane....news couldn't show that either...Where are all the interviews, eyewitnesses, surviving family members testimonies, (sure they are still around).....but most of all, why don't we still discuss the impact, or severe lack there of, of the effect this had on a nation? Why did this event serve to do nothing more, than to distract the country from their everyday routine, for about a half a year??? Because were a buncha' putties, s'ppose.....

Have to remember this day every other week: some curious minds, are still not satisfied.They simply don't have, and are programmed to believe they do not deserve, an audience...
carry on, eyes wide shut-

....AND THE ANCHOR PERSON ON tEEvEE.....goes, LAAA, te, da, te, da, te, da, te, da, te, da, te, daahhhh...

Choggie: I like the Decembrists too, but I have to confess to being somewhat confused by your remarks.

PS: I left a question on your other 9/11-related video, by the way (the one about the construction of the World Trade Center in which you made a rather cryptic comment).

"20 to 15 feet"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LRBHqJI40k

Though I concede there are differences here, for example, I don't know what speed the jet liner was travelling in relation to the F4. Also, I would think the Pennsylvanian field would have at least some small cushioning effect compared to a solid block of concrete...

But, I pretty much think this shows that it's possible for an object to crash into something as hard as the Earth and not retain very much of its original form.

In any case, where is United 93 and the missing passengers contained within? Why have these people not shown up yet? One can't seriously believe that the government would hide them indefinitely, in order to go off and pursue some sinister design. I think the reality is much more complex than this.

I guess it really depends how long it burnt for on the ground..

You know why things like this get ignored? It's because people like you rant and rave in a way that most people just cannot for the life of them comprehend or understand.

"has never been seen again since 9/11. Or so it says-and remember if you will, how little coverage of this event, any one gives a rats ass about today....gauge the level of true concern, by the degree of apathy....and get ready for a wondrous, thrill-ride, to the end of the decade....."

What? What the hell are you talking about?

The whole thing is a big case of "Just what the hell are you ranting about?"

That's why no-one cares, because you just throw out collections of words without context as if people are completely aware of exactly what you're thinking about at the moment you scribble that stuff down.

You're just adding to the problem...

I really have no idea what you're ranting about and based on your complete lack of description or rational discourse, I'm going to continue to not care.

Well, indeed. I rather suspect his intentional opaqueness is due to the fact that clarity would expose the intellectual deficiency of his argument.

One may notice a vibe rather than a linear evocation, and the nature of the last group of posts related to the subject of a possibility that folks don't, and may never, know what happened on that day, should show the message of meaning, that is to keep this subject alive, until it either drifts out of the collective consciousness entirely, or folks decide to call thing unknown and demand further information, and investigation. We call this, an open investigation, with an orgy of evidence to the contrary of an official explanation.......I say the Nation got fucked that day, by a group of diseased minds, with no respect for life, but for mammon, and the patsy, that position was assumed by hundreds of thousands of people...all over the world. Osama, yer mama, never told you about these people......

Not everything moves in a straight line-

Chogs, I'm one of your more potent fans, but I too don't know what your point is here.

Are you implying the crash was faked?

It's more comfortable for some to believe that the same evil old White men they've been trained to hate since grade school "planned" 9/11. It's safer to believe an evil element in an otherwise civilized world caused this than the murderous nihilism of islamofascists.

Too bad for the daydream believers, because the islamos ARE responsible, and should be utterly annihilated from the face of the earth.

"One may notice a vibe rather than a linear evocation, and the nature of the last group of posts related to the subject of a possibility that folks don't, and may never, know what happened on that day, should show the message of meaning, that is to keep this subject alive, until it either drifts out of the collective consciousness entirely, or folks decide to call thing unknown and demand further information, and investigation. We call this, an open investigation, with an orgy of evidence to the contrary of an official explanation.......I say the Nation got fucked that day, by a group of diseased minds, with no respect for life, but for mammon, and the patsy, that position was assumed by hundreds of thousands of people...all over the world. Osama, yer mama, never told you about these people......

Not everything moves in a straight line- "

And you continue to put forth writing in a style, and of content, that is a horendous waste of anyone's time to read.

Why can't you simply state 'It would seem that perhaps something odd happened to flight 93 due to the lack of wreckage visible afterwards' or similar... but nooo, you have to warble on about linear and non-linear thought patterns etc.. geeze.

"Why can't you simply state 'It would seem that perhaps something odd happened to flight 93 due to the lack of wreckage visible afterwards'[?]"

I think the answer to that question is perhaps that when they're put so clearly (instead of being shrouded in a collage of extravagant jargon), his statements prompt succinct and very obvious and replies: "I guess that's why you're not an air crash investigator, Choggie."

I'm not one to support conspiracy theories because they are generally alarmist without need and silly, but come on... This is just too obvious!
Where is the fucking plane? Whatever angle the plane hit the ground at, it would have made for some partial recovery of the debris.
Very Very weird... that's all I'm saying. And I don't trust the US Government one bit.

Writing is a construct, much like all me experience here on Earth.
I do not write for the cheap seats, i.e....I don't do simply diagrams or instructions-I don't use "I" much either, tends to muddle shit-(extravagant jargon...I kinda like that)

"intellectual deficiency of his argument." Thank God. Intelligence is overrated, and abused, like a Thai teen these days, I seriously abhor placing that above all else, as a gauge of credibility-
"the one about the construction of the World Trade Center in which you made a rather cryptic comment".....a reference to a child's rhyme, to commemorate and recall, Guy Fawkes wonderful day, when he tried to diss a King, back in 05'.......1605,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
how easy to forget history.....which is 2 why the adage of it "Repeating Itself"...is so appropriate here.

Crazy? when you don't understand how? Crazy, when all data is not available, but one comes to a conclusion anyway??

Yes, we live in a world of crazy people....what else is new.
Knowledge is power, not conjecture,and taking someone's world as law....To me, that is the ultimate insanity....

The fact that 5 years after this event, that the monkeys in th U.S. are not demanding answers like I am tells me that we are truly sheep, cattle, whatever you want to cal it....

a par or a spoco2 on in my life raft, would most likely one or the other be used as chum for some dinner, -a fat, juicy, raw tunie or shark.

So, you're intentionally opaque because you don't value intelligence (which might also explain why you seem to consider knowledge and expertise to be anathemas) and also because if you wrote clearly it would be more than apparent that you have absolutely nothing to say. Right, I see.

quantumushroom, what's this? :

"... the islamos ARE responsible, and should be utterly annihilated from the face of the earth."

you're sick.

Par on the defensive??? Ok brother, we need to know a bit about one another, before we jump to any conclusions....Hi. choggie. Now, to support your viewpoints regarding my intallijencts, Mooooooooooooooooo!

" So, you're intentionally opaque because you don't value intelligence" -yeah, that's it, nail on the head Einstein..opaque so you can use yer brain, by reading something multiple times if you have to, to get it, but, most read once and that's their take.....makes it convenient not to think, innit??

You need an expert??? You can buy on of those like you can a TV dinner, or a country....So, believe what you will, and I will believe what has meaning......

Yeah QM, that knee-jerk shit is why we can all be happy you are not at the place where they turn the keys simultaneously, and push the button......Not all roaches are bad, just the ones in yer food......

Your posts are not the deeply layered, nuanced and enlightened prose you seem to want people to think they are. They equate to nothing. There is no "it" to get. You have nothing to say. You are a charlatan. At first, you made a couple of reasonably decipherable claims -- each of which was demonstrably and straightforwardly wrong. I suppose that might explain your abject unwillingness to make any more or to continue our discussion on the issue 9/11.

unwilling??? far from it, my smug, self-satisfied, chum-Abject??? Perception on one's part-Yeah man, choggie is an idiot, his ramblings meaningless, his abilities to communicate effectively, sub-par. His adversaries and allies, are to be found in any available reflective surface.....May he suggest you study a reflection therein, that resembles the last time you took a look innit??

An argument that can't be approached objectively, is a futile gesture, a fool's wallow, a game he does not play.

How bout we play the pick each knee-jerk phrase apart till tears flow game??? Nah, frowned upon by the victims and their observers-Though, perhaps, you have proved yourself wrong Mr. P, by proving that his ramblings, did in fact, EQUATE to something....you are still here, are you not???

Discuss 9-11 till pigs fly south, without a complete set of facts one can only be satisfied with inadequate conclusions-

and yes, there are many layers to all ejaculations, written or spoken....it takes a mind not clinched, to decipher and glean....

Peace unto you, fair poster child-

Now, please, have the last word-

I like how Par assumes that because he doesn't understand choggie therefore nobody else does, and nobody else cares.

lol.

QM, you're disgusting. you might be free to be a retard, but it doesn't mean you're not a retard.

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