I have no problem with a restaurant adding an extra fee if you are a big group, but I have a problem when they try to call it a tip or gratuity. That's the whole issue, it's not gratuity, it's a bill. I pay tips in restaurants when I've gotten good service, or we had difficult orders or whatever - but I CHOOSE to pay it, I'm not forced to it.
I was JUST going to post this, because I saw it again last night. Excellent ending once you've chewed on it for a while. First time I was completely surprised that it ended there, but after more thought and repeat viewings it makes more sense.
Tips are voluntary or they are not tips. End of story.
A mandatory tip is just another bill. And it's a bill that's hidden from view until you have to pay. I'd say that's pretty low and if any other industry did it, people would be as outraged as I am now.
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I think this is hilariously passive aggressive. Also, on the internet you get nowhere with puppy sodomizing. Kitten sodomizing is where the money is at and Tom's Quality Comfort knows this.
I've onle seen the start time change as well, where you add "&start=20" where 20 is seconds to the embed two places. I suppose one could try to look for an unannounced feature and try "&end=50"
>> ^blankfist: It's easy to complain about a business when you've never invested money in a venture yourself. Most business owners are NOT billionaire fat cats with top hats and monocles. Most are working to make a living, and a lot of restauranteurs make less than the servers because of the debt and having to pay worker salaries first before paying theirs.
That aside, when these customers sat down to order they agreed to the mandatory tip. It would've been wise for the restaurant to comp them when they complained, but they certainly are not obligated to do so.
I rarely tip less than 20% unless the service is terrible. Even when mandatory I tend to add to it. I suppose I should move to Europe where they "make better society" and then I'd never have to reward people for their good work.
I think you are twisting my words. I know that restaurants are not a big faceless corporation with tons of cash and so on, that's not the issue. The issue is that a tip should not be mandatory - then it is a bill or a tax, or even as demon_ix says, fraud. "When they sat down they agreed to the mandatory tip" how should they know that? Did the restaurant advertise it to them or is it just implied? If all prices just happen to me 20% more expensive than what's listed, I'm inclined to say it's fraud too.
As a libertarian, I would have think you agreed with me on this, but a tip should not be a tax, it should be a donation. If you want to give the servers, the cook etc. extra money you are free to do so over here too, but it is your own choice.
When restaurant owners rely on tips to make up a decent wage for their employees, they are profiting on their employees good service instead of the employees doing that. That's (bad) exploitation. I like the more direct approach in Europe, where waiters get to keep the tips themselves on top of their wages, which would be enough. I suppose it's different when the minimum wage is almost $20, hence my "make better society".
>> ^blankfist: ^Spoken like someone who has never taken a financial risk in their life. When you open your restaurant, gwiz, you can do it that way if you like. But, the system is set up so the wait staff makes most of their money from gratuity.
Better wages wouldn't really work in the food industry. It's a tough racket, and restauranteurs typically couldn't afford to pay the wait staff minimum wage. And raising the menu prices would mean less customers and eventually less customers eating out.
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A mandatory tip is just another bill. And it's a bill that's hidden from view until you have to pay. I'd say that's pretty low and if any other industry did it, people would be as outraged as I am now.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: I challenge the sift to post a video that shows Sarah Palin in a positive light.
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Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
It's easy to complain about a business when you've never invested money in a venture yourself. Most business owners are NOT billionaire fat cats with top hats and monocles. Most are working to make a living, and a lot of restauranteurs make less than the servers because of the debt and having to pay worker salaries first before paying theirs.
That aside, when these customers sat down to order they agreed to the mandatory tip. It would've been wise for the restaurant to comp them when they complained, but they certainly are not obligated to do so.
I rarely tip less than 20% unless the service is terrible. Even when mandatory I tend to add to it. I suppose I should move to Europe where they "make better society" and then I'd never have to reward people for their good work.
I think you are twisting my words. I know that restaurants are not a big faceless corporation with tons of cash and so on, that's not the issue. The issue is that a tip should not be mandatory - then it is a bill or a tax, or even as demon_ix says, fraud. "When they sat down they agreed to the mandatory tip" how should they know that? Did the restaurant advertise it to them or is it just implied? If all prices just happen to me 20% more expensive than what's listed, I'm inclined to say it's fraud too.
As a libertarian, I would have think you agreed with me on this, but a tip should not be a tax, it should be a donation. If you want to give the servers, the cook etc. extra money you are free to do so over here too, but it is your own choice.
When restaurant owners rely on tips to make up a decent wage for their employees, they are profiting on their employees good service instead of the employees doing that. That's (bad) exploitation. I like the more direct approach in Europe, where waiters get to keep the tips themselves on top of their wages, which would be enough. I suppose it's different when the minimum wage is almost $20, hence my "make better society".
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
^Spoken like someone who has never taken a financial risk in their life. When you open your restaurant, gwiz, you can do it that way if you like. But, the system is set up so the wait staff makes most of their money from gratuity.
Better wages wouldn't really work in the food industry. It's a tough racket, and restauranteurs typically couldn't afford to pay the wait staff minimum wage. And raising the menu prices would mean less customers and eventually less customers eating out.
Make better society. Works pretty good in Europe.