"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
There is no contradiction in saying that this country stands for "liberty and justice for all", while not giving equal civil liberties to all it's citizens?
And you did miss the point in your original retort that I was pointing out that you too are a product of your environment.
You completely missed the point... If you had said "I don't think the state should grant marriages, because it is a religious term. The state should only grant civil unions." I would agree with you.
Doing away with subtlety: The point is you have your beliefs at least in part (and my suspicion would be a large part) because of your religious up bringing or your integration into a religious/social group. What astonished me was that you berate a 10 year old for pointing out a logical fallacy, for reasons that you yourself are guilty of. You should applaud him learning how to think critical at his age, rather than rebuke him for blindly adopting his parents beliefs. More to the point, he took those beliefs and logically applied them.
If that is not worth an upvote, then I better watch only cat videos.
"A 10 year old has 'a lot of friends' who are gay when his age group doesn't even hit puberty for 2-3 years? I'm sorry but isn't this a valid question"
He is 10. A little exaggeration.
"Theres nothing admirable about protecting the rights of groups you agree with, or groups you belong to."
There is nothing admirable about Martin Luther King?
"He'll sit down for gays but I'm sure theres lots of other groups he could care less about, atheists maybe?"
Well, clearly Winstonfield_Pennypacker is an intelligent boy and articulate. Unfortunately it seems like some people have been filling Winstonfield_Pennypacker's skull full of mush with their own agenda.
It is more than difficult to accept the details of Winstonfield_Pennypacker's story. A 30 year old has 'a lot of friends' none of which who are gay? Who is Winstonfield_Pennypacker referring to? Is it common for 30 year olds like Winstonfield_Pennypacker to have a lot of friends - let alone not even one that is gay? And this Winstonfield_Pennypacker with his "adult" friends just out of nowhere he decides to plant a flag against gay rights as a violation of the secular definition of marriage? AND he's willing to ignore thousands of other kinds of liberty & justice issues in the US legal system that take place every day!
Nope. Some other person has been shoveling an agenda into this Winstonfield_Pennypacker's head for a while now.... a long long while... Winstonfield_Pennypacker seems like he agrees with it. If Winstonfield_Pennypacker's mature/smart enough for a freakin' 30 year old in his mother's basement to maintain the position for his own reasons then fine & dandy, but he shouldn't impose his religious beliefs on a secular society. There is just no way this Winstonfield_Pennypacker out of the clear blue sky arrived at this. Winstonfield_Pennypacker is the result of inculcation.
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There is no contradiction in saying that this country stands for "liberty and justice for all", while not giving equal civil liberties to all it's citizens?
And you did miss the point in your original retort that I was pointing out that you too are a product of your environment.
Boy Won't Say Pledge of Allegiance Until Gays Can Marry
You completely missed the point... If you had said "I don't think the state should grant marriages, because it is a religious term. The state should only grant civil unions." I would agree with you.
Doing away with subtlety: The point is you have your beliefs at least in part (and my suspicion would be a large part) because of your religious up bringing or your integration into a religious/social group. What astonished me was that you berate a 10 year old for pointing out a logical fallacy, for reasons that you yourself are guilty of. You should applaud him learning how to think critical at his age, rather than rebuke him for blindly adopting his parents beliefs. More to the point, he took those beliefs and logically applied them.
If that is not worth an upvote, then I better watch only cat videos.
Boy Won't Say Pledge of Allegiance Until Gays Can Marry
He is 10. A little exaggeration.
"Theres nothing admirable about protecting the rights of groups you agree with, or groups you belong to."
There is nothing admirable about Martin Luther King?
"He'll sit down for gays but I'm sure theres lots of other groups he could care less about, atheists maybe?"
That is a non sequitur...
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I think it is my best work.
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I think it is my best work.
Boy Won't Say Pledge of Allegiance Until Gays Can Marry
It is more than difficult to accept the details of Winstonfield_Pennypacker's story. A 30 year old has 'a lot of friends' none of which who are gay? Who is Winstonfield_Pennypacker referring to? Is it common for 30 year olds like Winstonfield_Pennypacker to have a lot of friends - let alone not even one that is gay? And this Winstonfield_Pennypacker with his "adult" friends just out of nowhere he decides to plant a flag against gay rights as a violation of the secular definition of marriage? AND he's willing to ignore thousands of other kinds of liberty & justice issues in the US legal system that take place every day!
Nope. Some other person has been shoveling an agenda into this Winstonfield_Pennypacker's head for a while now.... a long long while... Winstonfield_Pennypacker seems like he agrees with it. If Winstonfield_Pennypacker's mature/smart enough for a freakin' 30 year old in his mother's basement to maintain the position for his own reasons then fine & dandy, but he shouldn't impose his religious beliefs on a secular society. There is just no way this Winstonfield_Pennypacker out of the clear blue sky arrived at this. Winstonfield_Pennypacker is the result of inculcation.
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