Seems we have a problem.
posted by Obsidianfire 2 months 2 weeks ago • 232 views
Moving this video to <username>'s personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

I'm seeing this way too much recently all over Videosift even on great videos. Comments? Suggestions? Experiences? Reasons as to why so many videos aren't getting the votes they need unless they are * begged/pqueued?</username>



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Too many videos in the queues I think. Personally I never get to run through the queue, because there are so many videos.

I would love it if the beg and siftbot-response were hidden, so that it didn't count in the comments. Maybe a small "this video has been begged for X times" instead.


written by gwiz665  | 2 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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The sift is fickle. If a video is posted at an off time, or a too-popular time, or if it's just plain unlucky, then it won't get enough votes in its first few hours and thus becomes a long-shot to get sifted. That's why I felt (and still feel) that we need to bring back the requeue. Given that videosift 3.2 is coming in the near future, I'm hoping that the requeue will make a comeback, but since I seem to be in the minority on this issue I'm not holding my breath.


written by Sarzy  | 2 months 2 weeks ago | CH
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it's called paranoia/playing favorites/lazy motherfuckers, and i for one, am Sick Of It!!!


written by choggie  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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^ Sadly enough, I have to agree with you on that opinion. I've been posting, shall we say, selective/obscure videos since I started posting here, and it seems if you give the people what they want you can just get by, but unless you have a fancy little icon of power by your name the videos you take passion in won't get the popularity they deserve. I don't expect to have obscure videos in the top 15, but I also expect a video of a friggin' baby monkey eating an apple to not have to be *begged. I know dam well that videos of that category FLY to the top when lucky charms post them.

(btw is that a mandala mosaic you have as your avatar?)



written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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it's called, changing yer comfortable sift habits everyday. This make the place and you, dynamic-do like you do when you dress up to go out.....make everyone happy for the sake of yerself.....(same situation as, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"...yer basic golden rule shit)


written by choggie  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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i for one, want strangers to beat me with a rolled-up newspaper.....but that's just me-


written by choggie  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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yeah, obsidian.....did a stream of consciousness search on flickr for mandalas, and that was the first to pop....


written by choggie  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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Its not just you, look at most users profiles, they are full with PQs.

I also don't like seeing something go into the PQ, but what I've noticed is that over time the real gems will end up getting sifted out, it takes time, but thats how the sift works right now.


written by Fedquip  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^choggie:
i for one, want strangers to beat me with a rolled-up newspaper.....but that's just me-


I won't question your fetishes cunner.




written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^Fedquip:
Its not just you, look at most users profiles, they are full with PQs.

I also don't like seeing something go into the PQ, but what I've noticed is that over time the real gems will end up getting sifted out, it takes time, but that the beauty of the sift.


That's the point. If it were just me I'd zip my mouth and suffer. But obviously something is wrong if it's pretty much everyone. The fact of the matter is, the "real gems" shouldn't have to be reiterated to get sifted. I am glad that dag decided to take some suggestions on improvement though. I'm just disheartened from the lack of decent content lately.






written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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Eklek.

That guy posts some of the best videos on this goddamn site. His PQ is larger then his sifted videos. Take some time to sift them up. They are all quality. The names are strange and unfamiliar but its definitely something you never heard or seen before.

feel free to vote my PQ up too


written by Farhad2000  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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feds right, the pqueque is the best thing ever happened to the sift...like a b-day party all year....


written by choggie  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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Point taken. I'm not here to debate that Videosift does not have quality content. I've just noticed as of lately it's mostly slapstick and animals. Continue with the comments though, as I'm sure everyone would like to know how the masses portray this vote shortage. Atleast I would.


written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^choggie:
feds right, the pqueque is the best thing ever happened to the sift...like a b-day party all year....


Haha. I do enjoy my videos not getting discarded, that's for sure. It does feel a bit like if you're not a popular person on the site that your videos won't get noticed as much in pqueue though. But as you stated earlier.. probably just paranoia. Beautiful, beautiful paranoia.


written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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This debate has been going on for a while now. I tend to be on the side of those calling for obscure quality to be more appreciated.
Yet here I am with a video in the top 15 about Steven Seagal punching other men in the penis, so I'm not really in any position to criticise.


written by Zeph  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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It's what Steven Seagal does best.


written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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What you are saying is that this site is fucked, because it pretends that quality and popularity and being interesting are all the same thing.

There is no way to make unpopular videos rise above popular videos, that's nonsense. There was a suggestion a while back for 2 upvotes, one for quality and one for interest, but that's kinda hard to describe and implement.

Like choggie says, the only solution is if the majority of members vote with their brains turned on, and that is never going to happen, because the membership policy here is "anyone who can use a computer". Also there's so many rules that people can't be bothered to follow them.

Anyway, this is a fundamental flaw and it won't ever be fixed. Carry on...


written by MINK  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^choggie:
it's called paranoia/playing favorites/lazy motherfuckers, and i for one, am Sick Of It!!!


Choggie and I have the same opinion on this. I think it's a combo as he's stated.
(Minus the paranoia, that was directed at me methinks.)

So can we not all agree so far that the users need to get off their rump and zusammenarbeiten(work together) to improve the sift. Watching videos and clicking on arrows ain't all that hard folks. Put a little brain in it!

I don't think it'll never be fixed. I think we'll find a way to work it in eventually.


written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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Someone forgot to close a font tag.


written by jimnms  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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You saw nothing. >.>


written by Obsidianfire  | 2 months 1 week ago | CH
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