So I finally find a video that not only is not on the sift, but not even on YouTube yet, and I think the community will love it. I posted it to my own YouTube account, but Senior Roe has informed me that is bad form to sift something from one's own account. So I'm posting here in the hopes some kind soul will upload it to theirs so I can sift it, or at the very least get some applaud points so I can get this ugly P off my name.
Here's the youtube link. The video shows a stunning comparison of George Bush's rhetorical skills, using clips from the 1994 Texas Governor debate against Ann Richards in which Bush was extremely well-spoken and articulate.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JvknGT8W5jA
Here's the youtube link. The video shows a stunning comparison of George Bush's rhetorical skills, using clips from the 1994 Texas Governor debate against Ann Richards in which Bush was extremely well-spoken and articulate.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JvknGT8W5jA
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bush-was-a-good-debater-10-years-ago-What-happened
The clip is presented differently but the same source material.
by the way, any of you kids that want something posted that you made, I will do it on principle, regardless of content.
-choggie
lmayliffe, try this-
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3503877302082311448&hl=en
http://www.videosift.com/video/Brad-Sucks-Making-Me-Nervous
Hey...I just thought of a way to help you out of probationary status...
*quality....no wait
*ban
He's clearly the kind of person that VS doesn't want.
You're right. I'm unfriendly to ignorance, whether that be in the form of religious wingnuts or long-time entrenched trolls (read:choggie) who think they can browbeat people into submission with banning threats and glib dismissals.
If you don't like that attitude, tough. But it's a far sight better than some of the YouTube-y drivel on so many of these videos.
A crotchety and irritable advocate of sensible discourse is an advocate nonetheless. Unless you are intolerant.
Don't you know that VideoSift exists to keep people like you from trashing the internet with your petty insults? You amaze me.
As I just got done telling Gorgon:
1)You wanted to self-post even after being told by one of the Sift's ADMINS that it's a no-no, 2)You mouth off to other members and 3)you mouths off to a SENIOR member with the power to ban your ass.
That's awesome.
2. I respond to other members with the same modicum of respect with which they address me. I challenge you to find an instance in which that is not true.
3. Choggie is a senior troll. I've been here long enough to understand that. When his first foray is to threaten banning for all newbies, and then to troll my music video with nonsense, he gets treated the same he treats others. See number 2.
And choggie never outright insulted you.
2. Read my post again. This is not, and never was, about self-posting.
3. Outright insults and subtle insults are the same thing. Browbeating less visible users with threats is not the sort of behavior anyone should engage in, I am sure you will agree.
If not, ditch the youtube attitude.
Way to welcome the new folks, choggie.
You're right. I must be the only one seeing it.
"I'm sorry you were neglected as a kid or whatever it was that made you so angry about life."- Gorgonheap
What was that awesome little joke you had earlier in this thread?
*cough* hypocrite *cough*
I see what you did there.
Copied and pasted from the VideoSift FAQ! (Which lmayliffe obviously did not read)
#21 What can't I say in a comment?
We love a good fiery comment thread, but sometimes they go overboard. Please avoid personal attacks. It's okay to criticize ideas but refrain personal insults. Please avoid blatantly racist speech, threats, or other verbal abuse. This goes for comments in public arenas as well as private member profile comments. If a comment is bad enough it will probably be deleted due to negative feedback. If these types of comments are regular occurrences, we will probably ask you to leave the community.
That really should be the end-all of this thread.
Section 22!
What exactly consitutes a self link?
If any of the following is true about a particular video you are considering submitting, it is a self link, with NO exceptions for any member:
* The video is associated with your account on the video host (i.e., you uploaded it to YouTube, Google Video, etc.).
If you are going to make some sort of point here, please do it quickly. If the idea is to apply to rules set forth in that article of the FAQ to members here, you can start with your buddy Gorgonheap.
Cheers.
edit: In case you are wondering why Gorgonheap has a hard-on for me, take a few shots of whiskey and see if you can slog your way all the way through this thread. All shall be revealed.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Loves-You-conditionally
Look at the freaking post.
So I finally find a video that not only is not on the sift, but not even on YouTube yet, and I think the community will love it. I posted it to my own YouTube account, but Senior Roe has informed me that is bad form to sift something from one's own account. So I'm posting here in the hopes some kind soul will upload it to theirs so I can sift it, or at the very least get some applaud points so I can get this ugly P off my name.
If I was going to self-link, then after uploading the video to my YouTube account, I would have sifted it. I knew that was bad form, and James (whom I've known since we were in high school together) suggested I post it to Sift Talk instead, in case someone was willing to either A) post it to their YouTube account, allowing me to sift it without self linking or B) just get some applaud points.
Seriously, you're tilting at windmills.
I fail to see why we have to go on a moral crusade every time we disagree with someones asshole comment.
Since you've made it clear in the past with your personal attacks on me that you consider me to fall into this category, perhaps it is you that should read that thread and take your own advice to heart?
Crusading against me when you are guilty of the same behavior just makes you look like a tool.
At least I'm not too big to admit that I was wrong.
That's some mighty fine logic, that is.
"You're a special kind of loser."
"You're such a tool, choggie."
"Get bent."
Yeah. Those are just criticisms. Those are in no way personal attacks or insults.
Follow the timeline, Marine. I'll summarize it for you here.
1. I post here, at the advice of "an admin".
2. The video I was hoping someone else would upload has already been sifted. Case closed there.
3. Several kind users make suggestions to me on how to get out of P status, which I appreciate.
4. Choggie entry number 1: "...unless you lurk like so many of the "p's" out there do, irritating the absolute piss outta me....now you know".
5. Several nice people admonish Choggie gently, asking him to be kind.
6. Ignoring Choggie, and taking another user's advice, I sift a music video.
7. Choggie Number 2 : "hey ant, there's a lotta newbies I'd like to lose.....can I have a special button er summpthin"? Hey...I just thought of a way to help you out of probationary status...
*quality....no wait *ban".
8. Thinking Choggie's insults are confined solely to this thread, I post the following, rather mild rebuke: Choggie, Choggie, Choggie, I knew there was a reason I lurked...."
9. Upon noticing Choggie trolling the music video I posted upon suggestion with the complete nonsense, I tell him to get bent.
So sure. You can defend Choggie to the death if you like. Personally I'd find someone a bit more.....legible....to become a martyr for. Or you can play the rules lawyer and try to drum up a case that I was being so incredibly verbally abusive as to violate the Sift guidelines, which if you actually read what I wrote, you'll see that I was not.
Either way, your stuffing a strawman with a red herring and taping it to a windmill.
I'm done with this, now that I've had to completely summarize the facts in order to get rid of the ridiculous hyperbole espoused in this thread.
The signal to noise ratio is higher here than at YouTube, that's for damn sure.
But if the signal comes along with a heaping dose of obsequious sycophants suckling at the teat of all-powerful SENIOR MEMBERS who keep newer members' heads bowed in humility with empty threats and hyperbole mixed with hyper-sensitive hypocrites attempting to apply frontier justice to selective members, then I'll take the noise any day.
Besides, I already told you that I was wrong about the self-promoting thing.
Shame. I never wanted to be that guy.
Pasty geeks aren't they??....They would do well to have a chick they know stylist....looks like they have the gear and following to come up with a less pothead-lazy viddy......blegggh! Lazy Geektronica.
written by choggie
more quality from choggie. /yawn
your powers of observation astound as always.
written by lmayliffe
wel....iffn ya feel that way about an objective critique.....
written by choggie
Are you blind?
It's one person, dude. Not a "they".
And your "objective critique" amounted to calling the fan who made the video a "lazy pasty geek".
Why don't you get over yourself for a few seconds and offer something....you know......that makes sense? Or is relevant at all?
written by lmayliffe
Haha, and a downvote. You're such a tool, choggie.
Get bent.
written by lmayliffe
Because the song sucks as much as your attitude.
written by gorgonheap
Why isn't this moron banned yet? That is CLEARLY the kind of attitude that isn't welcome here.
written by MarineGunrock
The sifttalk I have used for first-person sincerity since I have been here. I am the first to admit being slow to catch curves most-times, otherwise, its cage matches with ego till ego loses. I had no idea this was brewing a batch a foul wert- I not troll-I stir up shit till all points a view come out-I had no opinion about lmayliffe, till some flags went up, and paid no attention till this sifttalk post.....
At this point, its all about ego being destroyed for me personally...I have placed heart and tenacity over agenda and world-views, since I have been here, lmayliffe, and you new user, are no exception. I'll butt heads with buttheads, though, and if said head show a sincere confusion as to the whys, we a dem talk outside the public arena......I am not saying we get very far, but I am always willing to go farther.
2 simple reasons for the down vote on yer post-the music blew, and the perception-bound observation of who I am, did as well.......Put me in a box again, we can have fun.....You got me wrong daddy-o, i am no troll-i have returned to this sift, and talk post for a third time, am chiming in 'cause ya seem to be fixated on me, like your lack of "P' has anything to do with me.....I like your opinionated stance, its yer opinions that need some fine-tuning....
welcome....now, find a mirror, and apply the same criteria to yourself, as you do to others, this a fundamental exercise, towards some self-actualized being.....