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posted by choggie 1 month 2 weeks ago • 525 views
http://videodrome.videosift.com/

Since there is no stated or written rule or discussion that we do not care to know of or may have missed entirely, and since the answer received au privae lacks in more ways than twelve....or i dunno, perhaps it's the off handed way someone is saying no for nothing more than some unilateral, non-decorum????.....
UUhhhhh, Why is not my pending channel creation, (and it is just that, until it no longer is listed on my profile page) a channel being scrutinized in some *COUGH community forum, rather than w/o post-haste and fanfare, as an aside and insult, for my eyes and visceral response only....

A simple coming out by way of informal, administration siftquisition.....If Please helps, then, "Please."






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written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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what's your new channel about anyway?


written by kulpims  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Here's the pending blurb:

[The new medium for information and infotainment, which has replaced the Cathode Ray Nipple for so many folks with sense, that has caused sleazebags formerly known as recording executives and film producers making bank to twirl and grind their coke-addled teeth, has given the world a window through which to gaze upon the talent that walks among us, whose laud and exposure is waiting to be realized. Like any other tool, it is abused, maligned, and otherwise used as a pulpit for masturbatory indulgence-.....

Take time here to deposit the best of Fan-made, Mash-ups, Custom Players from the YT of your own design, and most importantly, the stars of tomorrow who have genuine, God-inspired talent from on high....]

one admin says no and offers paltry in ,my estimation, reasons for the decision....I say leave it up to "VOTE" or change the rules....

What sat all...or at the very least an un-biased majority....


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Perhaps it's not pigeon-holed enough.....Merely a revision of description, and the evolution thereof....uhhhh.....hello-can always kill anything i create, or add water and watch it grow.....I do not see any alternative but to make a solid rule now, or let it beeee.....


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Oh and I will toss shit out the channel faster than fuck, please, use what discretion there blankfits you may have learned from reading pop tart boxes and on corners from pee-smellin' sages.........


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I replied in private profile comment to Choggie - but he would like this to be out in the open soooo here we go.

I have said that we are not going to allow the creation of the Videodrome channel for a couple of reasons.

1. Choggie has already created 3 channels

2. The topic seems broad enough to cause confusion- not sure exactly what it's about


written by dag  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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3 channels?

i thought the wildwildwest show was a good fit, myself.

what happened with it, chog?


written by my15minutes  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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this will be interesting ...
*sits down, opens a bag of popcorn*



written by kulpims  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I think it's a wicked idea for a channel personally. I get so bored of people being all high and mighty about fan made stuff when actually some of it is very clever and inspired. It's disgusting to me to have people getting snobby about it, to me it's creative people making the most out of what they have got and getting their art down as best they can with the resources available to them. So much is shite, but that goes for everything anyway, no matter how much money or time is thrown at it. How about Choggie finds someone who is willing to take over his channels first (however that's possible) and let this be the last one he makes? Sounds fair to me...


written by alien_concept  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I'll take jazz!
*sits down again still not knowing what the hell's going on*


written by kulpims  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Nik's naks on LSD ?


written by joedirt  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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(I wouldn't necessarily factor in the three previous channels, I would more look at the fact that it isn't a definable category. I will say that one badly missing category -- actually it's the crap I don't want on the sift -- but there is not eFame, vlog, YT idiots, webcam pundits. I would say his vision might almost include that, since it really is the number one usage of YT and we probably are missing out on some up and coming Entertainment2.0.

It's mostly not of sifters tastes, but there might be a market for more mellow criss crocker type videos. I suppose it falls under viral, but WTF is that. We do need more REAL channels like nouns, not concepts and less subjective categories. How about "conspiracies" might fall under the nwo, fringe stuff, but yeah looks like choggie is DOA on this channel request.


written by joedirt  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I must say your popcorn tastes delicious, kulpims;)

I'm in favour of a *mash(up) (edit, a better name I think is *fan) channel. One can always create a playlist to select your best ones..

@joedirt
*Conspiracies are not for the cult-channel?


written by Eklek  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I say no more channels until we get *slomo/timelapse.


written by thegrimsleeper  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Fuck JD, as usual, yer no fuckin' help.....representing the linear majority who have no concept of anything real anyhow....your "suggestion" is duly noted and depreciated .....always have liked ya, respected your pinnache, and yer hayseed avatar.....

So kulpims gets jazz-So choggie has noi channel-
wildwestshow(collective's), eia(owned), and jazz/blues is kulpims.


Any other insights as to how choggie will conduct his new channel???....Good, submit it in triplicate and mail to the following address:
An additional copy, needs to be buried in the backyard and a treasure map distributed to neigborhood crack dealers.

Choggie Kendall
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Washington, D.C. 20528.


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Fire me up Rommell??? James???... Dags' obviously reeling from copious amounts of testosterone, and you might guess than navigating this unusual territory may be too much for her to handle......


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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No, conspiracies are for all channels, especially "Politics"

Cult is for cults, personality or otherwise......so political bullshit should go there.....


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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My feeling on the proposed channel is inline with Dag's. It seems essentially a videos.videosift.com channel. Perhaps that's mostly due to the channel name.

More importantly, it's off kilter for any one member to singlehandedly define so many new channels. Perhaps we need to etch in stone an official limit for how many/frequently a new channel can be created by a user. Maybe one per year would be good.

(The popcorn's good, but anyone have any Kernel Season's we can sprinkle on?)


written by lucky760  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Oh how about make it retroactive RS??...Or grandfather chog, n' only after refining together, as a loving caring band of oligarchs and serfs, the proper segmentation for the Videodrome.....

Agree, perhaps the name would confuse folks who can't read simple instructions.....This is stated pretty much straight forward in my "Pending" channel....
-Artistic, creatively-inspired and unique, Fan-Made mash-ups, custom players, and Up-and coming points of light, not yer run of the mill, 15-minutes types....


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Can anyone tell I have a piss-poor attitude concerning the direction this thread is taking???....

*innner voices.."yes choggie, we do, you're on the path to fucking it up sideways.....")


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Does anyone else see the humor in telling choggie he needs to more clearly define his new channel?


written by xxovercastxx  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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could you, choggie, give some examples of videos you'd think embody this new channel? My simple mind still can't grasp what exactly it is you'd like to do.


written by rottenseed  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I think he meant boring stuff like this


written by kulpims  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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The problem with the concept isn't that we don't need novel, different types of videos (would they go to the art / film channels)...

The real problem is going to be the fact that all the videos for that channel will get only a few votes based on the tastes of the linear majority who have no concept of anything real anyhow.

So make a playlist and put it on your blog daily or whatever.

And I disagree with both head hanchos that it matters about three previous channels. We haven't added that many, and no one has really abused anything, and I don't think choggies intent is to abuse anything. It's easier to just say, no more Niks Naks channels and leave it at that.


written by joedirt  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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choggie - was my question too polite and linear to bother answering?

gosh. sorry to be so pedestrian that i'm having a hard time being distracted by talk of defining the channel, while you run out the clock with 10 more comments, and insulting anyone who doesn't gush at the prospect of crumbs from your channel-creation table.

so, what's wrong with wildwestshow?
why do you get to create then abandon 3 or 4 channels, while others are content with 1?


written by my15minutes  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Goddamnit!. I apologize myfifteenminutes-Thank you. in answering that complex question, Lemmme trail off and get jd's panties un-used as the are, un-knotted, since squeezin' and tying them doesn't seen to produce pussy- No Joe yer idea is like watching paint crust, by the way-

my fif teen, I created the wwshow at the goading of one AWOL user, raven-she tickled me and stroked me one night after I was dead set on letting EIA channel goto the worthy anfd enthusiastic, karaidl....., (kulpims) still wants it yah??!!, , offered here to the collective, and snapped.

Leaves me without a godddamn channel, and I still am without one, so gimme gimme gmme , either reasons why or what for, why "YOU THINK" (good christ on bad drugs must we all suffer it??!!), or the keys to the goddamn kingdom of my creation...and joe get laid fer crissakes.....


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Oh and content???....you assusme others are content with what???.....WTF MFM??....Speak for yourself. always.....


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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you love me choggie, I'm the only one that understands what yer saying half the time.


written by joedirt  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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"gosh. sorry to be so pedestrian that i'm having a hard time being distracted by talk of defining the channel, while you run out the clock with 10 more comments, and insulting anyone who doesn't gush at the prospect of crumbs from your channel-creation table."

Hehehehe


written by alien_concept  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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On a wider question - I think we should cap channels created by members to 2. Thoughts?


written by dag  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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OK choggie I'll take a stab at interpreting your idea for a channel. One of the themes under the umbrella of postmodernism is that every new idea has been done. Therefore to be creative you steal, recycle and/or rearrange something old to make something new. In film that’s what Gus Van Sant did when he remade “Psycho” shot for shot.

Here’s a term for y’all to choke on:

“recontextualization”


You’ve already mentioned mashups and fan-made videos. There are also re-cut trailers and video remixes.

I guess all that doesn’t help you with a descriptive name.

The channel would celebrate the video products from average folks/amateurs handed powerful video recording and editing technology.


written by dotdude  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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dag - guess i'm not sure why it shouldn't be capped at 1 channel, personally. but i understand people come and go, channels get swapped and whatnot.

i just thought it should be ultimately up to you anyway, on a case-by-case basis, without need to needing to declare anything based on this. like i said, though, i wasn't here for choggie's original channel-changes, or anyone else's, and was just looking for a 'thumbnail sketch' of the reasoning behind the request.

choggie - thx. i really do appreciate the honest and even-keeled reply, mr. k.
but with equal sincerity, and in choggish, to prove it...

jus dunna' why y'aint partial to retakin the reins, and circle them wagons at the OK corral.


written by my15minutes  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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ok...let's start over-


Current stated rules, and or dictate, does not preclude some unilateral decision, OR me from having my channel the way I see fit....So whaT really is the DEAL???!!!

Make it happen and see what the fuck how about, ye WIIFF the power to release the DRAMA , BULLSHIT, OR or code.....is it really a godDamN problem....?????

Panties, again----------P P A N T Y K NO T S ......!!???

aND I HAVE TIME FOr THIS?????


yes


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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i LOVE jOE dIRT AND WISH TO SERVICE HIM IN WHAT EVER WAY HE SEES FIT......

how bout them apples......yes JD huron my masturbation list......


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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look, dags at work...day job perhaps.....let the kids stew......


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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and really ....someone chime in with meat in the interim if ya have too

I won't back till the dagmars off an has had time to prepare......the man need t' be about th' biz a makin' bacon.....


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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*respeck


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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dag, your 1/2 channel limit is going to need an exception in that election08 is clearly going to be archived into a playlist or at least removed from the list of selectable channels pretty soon.

Anyways, I wouldn't even contempt a rule since who knows if v3.3 brings more useful more control, etc. to a "channel" and it is re-envisioned. It never quite achive ecosphere/ critical mass. I never use other then as a more advanced sorting/playlist.


written by joedirt  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Joe, please, hut the fuck up....this thread is bgout me and my channoel


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^joedirt:
...election08 is clearly going to be archived...

another good example. just sayin'.



written by my15minutes  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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I'm thinking that you are looking for some additional explanation from me Choggie, but I don't have much to add. Please see this comment for reference.

I'm not singling you out or anything, we just feel that one member should not be able to create 4 different channels and move on after each one. We have quite a few channels now, so I'd really like to reserve channel creation for new bronze diamonds that rise through the ranks. I think 2 would be a good limit going forward.

JD, for a channel like Election 08, we should probably just disable the channel for new additions and leave it in the list for posterity.


written by dag  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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Geeee, I feeel better, .....always....

Guess I didn't appreciate the time lag
Guess i didn't appreciate the tone
Guess i didn't appreciate the .."manlinees" ( more than some insincere civility with regard to context) or the week-willed manner in which some Fuck You message was delivered, sounding all sweet, matter of fact, and "Nice".....Really do despise NICE- usually like some lubricant and soft words whispered in my ear from behind during that process......
Guess I just don't appreciate, period, huh???....(All the haters in the house say, who gives as fiddler's fuck.)


Fuck a channel, and fuck the station and the television it's on, I gueeeeeeess.....

That the way the sift feeeeeeels?....Fuck no. Most can't eat an ego sandwich made from their own forcemeat, but then, that's the world not simply some cool videoblog.

uhhhh, USED to be cool-and what choggie wants, has nothing to do with it.....

Who wants the new cunt channel.....anyone????
Dern, can't make one.....guess we need another rule change because of some asshole making trouble....

Any takers on whats true and false or goddamn meaningless here??? I still want the channel-and I ain't the least bit satiated yet........


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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so retool it and get some sleep, geeez!!!..... dentistry is not my bag-


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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How about a rambling channel? Either way you got your response time to unsticky so we can talk about something else.


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unsticky it or discard it then......


written by choggie  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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>> ^dag:
I'm thinking that you are looking for some additional explanation from me Choggie, but I don't have much to add. Please see this comment for reference.

I'm not singling you out or anything, we just feel that one member should not be able to create 4 different channels and move on after each one. We have quite a few channels now, so I'd really like to reserve channel creation for new bronze diamonds that rise through the ranks. I think 2 would be a good limit going forward.

JD, for a channel like Election 08, we should probably just disable the channel for new additions and leave it in the list for posterity.


Assuming there are more cool things that channel "owners" like myself can do in the future I think creating one channel is just fine. Makes you focus on what you really want to create, instead of dumping it when you're bored. Or perhaps if the user gets another 250 videos submitted they then create another? That'll prove they really want it







written by Deano  | 1 month 2 weeks ago | CH
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channels give me anxiety and gas. I haven't felt the need to classify a video like this as such...then again I haven't had the yearning burning sensation to search for videos like this either. If this is something you're into, I can see a useful need for it.

Maintaining a channel isn't too hard, nor would be maintaining 3...but keeping our channels from becoming too specialized and complex is important. No help to anybody but I think that describes the conflict.


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uhhhhh, so having stated the above almost 3 weeks ago none of this bullshit would be here, and coggie would be a simple moving part-when I announced a channel creation after having released for absorption, jazz/blues-

Bad tastes in the mouth have sullied the pallet for sweetmeats, don't really want a channel, had a hand in 3...........


EIA's inspiration??? To God himself give thanks an'praises and yer foldin' money what's left in both front trouser pockets.....


wildwestshow is ravenwilde's' child....


jazz/blues-is kulpims if he cares to grab the torch
Now all that's left is pride, prejudice, and some "ass or crotch" take yer pick, as the admin seated next to you heads to the loooo, onna Quantas' one-way flight...

Cheers, and again, thank you all, for all the fishy...........


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