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How does a video get 8 votes with only 5 unique views?


written by jonny  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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That means people voted on it without ever watching it. tsk, tsk.


written by dag  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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That's not always a bad thing. Sometimes people post something I've seen before, why watch it again? The media in a time of war clip posted recently was like that, someone posted a clip and I mentioned where it came from. Couple of days later someone posts the full video, I already knew what it was so didn't need to look.

Doing it if you don't know the clip, that's another matter. Start to get into a cliquish supporting people rather than the work thing there and that I'm not fond of.


written by drattus  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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Huge clique here. Noticed the voting thing a couple times. Some people just vote (or no-vote) certain posters, and not the video.


written by Fletch  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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Me votey all the time based on title. Or if it has 9 votes, I just put it out of it's misery to make the queue smaller.

➸❍✥✤⌺‶”“…♫♪☻☺☹☎☞☒☑♀


written by joedirt  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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∢∰∱∲∳⊳⋓⋣⋈⊸⊹⋙⋉⋚⋺⋻⋝⋍⊾⊞⊎≽≜≛∻∩▓▒◕◔◈◉◛◬▱➊➅❖❄✡✰✎✯✭✬✫✿


written by joedirt  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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Question: if you push through to the origin page (click on the video and go to the YouTube page), and watch the video there, instead of here will it register a unique view here? Also if you do this, as I have done several times and return an vote...is that so wrong?


written by youdiejoe  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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That's not always a bad thing. Sometimes people post something I've seen before, why watch it again?

to check if video quality is ok before upvoting

btw I often watch my videos over and over.

(OT: I'd like firefox spellchecker to be automatically set to get both languages, It's annoying to switch it every time)


written by looris  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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That's not a bad point looris, I honestly can't remember if I'd thought about it that time or not but I'd probably be less likely to suspect they'd post a bad link if it's a name I recognize or a rank high enough to know better. It's a decent habit to be in though, at least check the first minute for vid quality.


written by drattus  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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youdiejoe, I'm pretty sure that the view counts both if you open it in a new page and if you just view the vid from the main page and click through. Seems to be clicking the "view video" javascript from the main pages which trigger the view rather than actually watching the vid. That's just based on observation though, Lucky or someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't see anything wrong with clicking through and watching there, full screen has never worked for me here even when we had it so that's the only way I see them full screen. Likely my fault at the time since it seemed to work for others. Too many java and other restictions but it's more secure.


written by drattus  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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I look at my sifts all the time


written by swampgirl  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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"∢∰∱∲∳⊳⋓⋣⋈⊸⊹⋙⋉⋚⋺⋻⋝⋍⊾⊞⊎≽≜≛∻∩▓▒◕◔◈◉◛◬▱➊➅❖❄✡✰✎✯✭✬✫✿"

My thoughts exactly.

Honestly I won't watch a video again if I've seen it before (a commercial or documentary) and go ahead and upvote it. Same with videos at 9 in the queue...


written by thesnipe  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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Umm... not to get off topic, but the original intent was to ask if the unique view counter was working. At the time I posted this, the video was only showing one unique out of 73 views.


written by karaidl  | 2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago | CH
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*quality-Title


written by choggie  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Awarding karaidl with one star point for this contribution to Sift Talk - declared quality by choggie.


written by siftbot  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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oh and.....cliques??? What's wrong with em?? I have yours, you have mine, we all have our familiars. Some folks simply despise their fellow man, whadderya gonna do about it? A tsk tsk for not watching, seldom does this return to bite one's ass, but is feddy's case, internet slut pothead that he is, has shamelessly told us all after he was beat and dragged, actually profits from this by way of ratings, like the good media whore that he has groomed himself with such discipline(*carpal tunnel-*BLUUBBUBLLBLBLLBLLBBLLLLUPP!-cough! cough!!cough!) to become! We love you like we love FOX CNN MSNBC and Ted Turner hisselp, Fed........keep up the dredging, hedging, and return to your regularly, programmed, schedule.

I vote based on all manner of criteria, the least of which sometimes is the viddy standing alone......People make the site, not these viddies.....


written by choggie  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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yeah i have to admit i have definitely upvoted on stuff just cuz i like the sifter & not necessarily the sift. AND i nearly always upvote if someone has beaten me to it and sifted something that i just found (and therefore i don't watch it, just vote)


written by pipp3355  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Sorry Karaidl! Didn't mean to hijack your thread. I haven't seen any anomalies with the total/unique views, but 73-1 does sound pretty screwy. Is it possible Fedquip's account is used by multiple people?


written by jonny  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Highly improbable, jonny. That's my devil's advocateur, for the day.......Fedquip???? Is that possible? I am unqualified, to answer this.


written by choggie  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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jonny, On the multiples I'd seriously doubt it. They do watch IPs here, I've seen it mentioned, if anyone that prolific was showing up on multiples it would be noticed.

choggie, on the clique thing we'd just disagree I guess. I'll drop you a private note on that. I like you for some of the things you've posted and done, I like Fedquip for the same reasons. Won't let either fact excuse either of you if you're wrong or post something I don't like though, and I don't quite understand the animosity between you two. Not my business though so I guess I don't need to. Wish it wasn't so public though.


written by drattus  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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There is no animosity. The ball-busting aside, I can say I enjoy his place here, every day more. I give him a hard time it seems, with the occasional editorial, but again, the sentiment, the flavor, remains the same, and it is wholly, my perception-oriented place of reference. Most times I simply tell him in private, the vibe I get from a post or another.....I am always grateful for the gems he has the time and experience to find....


written by choggie  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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[edited] Oh I wasn't suggesting anything nefarious. -clip- I've stuck my foot in it once too often today. I'm shutting up now.


written by jonny  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Am I a narcissist? Is that the discussion? Really?

Man I with I wasn't an internet slut pothead, then I might have something witty to say.

In any case, I don't see the "unique view" thing, I sure as hell haven't watched this video more then once (yet, it might come in handy later) Otherwise I assure you there is only one person using this account... unless my fish are playing on the computer when I am out.


written by Fedquip  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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someone should give fedquip a prize for using the term 'internet slut pothead'. i loled so hard milk came out of my nose.


written by pipp3355  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Oh sure, play dumb. Just pretend like you didn't watch your video 73 times, hack people's accounts, and upvote yourself.


written by karaidl  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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today I've already listened to Mika's Grace Kelly something like more than a dozen time. Can't stop, just can't stop.

But since I'm not reloading the page I guess it doesn't count.


written by looris  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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A few times in the last day or so, I have been the first to watch a new video in the queue (0 unique). I would move to another page, than go back to see that same video with several total views, but still only one unique. I didn't watch it again, and according to Lucky, owner views do not count towards # of views at all. It must be counting anonymous views. But even so, the total would go up by as much as 10 in a couple minutes. I know VS is popular and all, but seems like a lot of anonymous views on the same vid in that short of time.


written by jonny  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Too much to read here, so I'll just explain how the view counter business works.

  • Views by non-logged-in and logged-in users alike count toward the simple view counter (the total times viewed).

  • Views only by logged-in users count toward the unique counter.

  • If you view your own video, it does not count toward any views at all (not the simple counter and not the unique counter).

Question: if you push through to the origin page (click on the video and go to the YouTube page), and watch the video there, instead of here will it register a unique view here?

The great thing is that with the new version of the site, any way you arrive at a video embed requires that you do something that will count toward the corresponding post's views. IOW, there's no way to get to the embed to click through to YouTube without incrementing the views for the post on the sift.


written by lucky760  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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There's no way to get to the embed to click through to YouTube without incrementing the views for the post on the sift.

That sounds like a challenge!


written by arvana  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Why yes I think that is a challenge!

Technically Lucky, one can click on the embed link and not trigger a view. From there you can pull the YouTube URL for the video, copy it into your browser's location and go watch the video.


written by twiddles  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Okay, wiseguys, you have my attention.

What do you mean exactly, twiddles? What "embed link" can you click on without triggering a view? I'm searching my mind and unable to come up with the situation you've described. Hmm... Headscratcher...


written by lucky760  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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The "embed" link between "comments" and "email" links that brings up the embed code. ...Though who would want to do that I don't know.


written by twiddles  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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Ahhh, so.

Mr. Twiddles, you are a clever one. Perhaps we should count those as views as well... Kidding. I'm sure that's an eventuality we can all live with.


written by lucky760  | 2 years 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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*discard


written by karaidl  | 1 year 2 weeks ago | CH
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Discarding this post - discard requested by original submitter karaidl.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 2 weeks ago | CH
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