Comments for "Welcome to VideoSift 3.0" Talk at VideoSift.com

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:40:29 -0700

Also - expect some bugs.

This is an entirely new piece of software, and we're expecting teething problems. Please post any errors you find to this thread, and we'll knock 'em over one-by-one.

By pyrex

pyrex (http://www.videosift.com/member/pyrex) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:35:40 -0700

W00000t! *Quality! Great job guys!

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:36:07 -0700

Awarding dag with one star point for this contribution to Sift Talk - declared quality by pyrex.

By bluecliff

bluecliff (http://www.videosift.com/member/bluecliff) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:56:03 -0700

Hey lurker! I can see you! you too dotdude.

Seeing who's viewing a page is a really nice novelty.
- the page loading takes a little bit more time though.

All in all congratulations!
*Quality

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:56:03 -0700

dag has already been awarded a star point for this post - ignoring quality request by bluecliff.

By mlx

mlx (http://mlx.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:06:59 -0700

*awesome

By Eklek

Eklek (http://eklek.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:11:25 -0700

My being is gradually adapting to da new stylee&functionality, nice work

By swampgirl

swampgirl (http://swampgirl.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:24:43 -0700

Congratulations guys! Lucky bless you. Let Sifty keep your seat warm and go have a nap

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:38:28 -0700

The biggest issue right now, SLOW! I thought v3 was supposed to fix that? Is it not done yet?

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:39:55 -0700

We're working on the slowness right now. I'm hoping it's only temporary.

By choggie

choggie (http://www.videosift.com/member/choggie) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:52:15 -0700

so where is my queued and published viddies part a da nav bar????

By LePierre

LePierre (http://www.videosift.com/member/LePierre) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:08:56 -0700

Good riddance to Pligg! On the other hand I don't like how I have to do an extra click to view and play the video I'm voting on. It seems a little unecessary.

By thesnipe

thesnipe (http://thesnipe.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:20:19 -0700

Great stuff guys!!! Looking spiffy!

By pyrex

pyrex (http://www.videosift.com/member/pyrex) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:56:46 -0700

Yeah, it would be great if we could get an option in our profile options to have videos expanded by default. Still, that's the only gripe I have so far.

By youdiejoe

youdiejoe (http://youdiejoe.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:07:00 -0700

Congrats to all! Good work.

By James Roe

James Roe (http://jamesroe.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:54:14 -0700

Hey guys,

I know it's been sort of slow. We think that we have traced the problem down to some issues with our robots.txt file which controls how bots interact with the website. Basically all of the major search engines flipped out over not being able to index the site over night and we are seeing a request every second or so from several ips. This traffic is largely targeted at some pages that are no longer at their original urls. We are working on reducing the impact that this is having on the server.

By michie

michie (http://michie.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:08:25 -0700

3.0 s the magic number. looks great

By darkrowan

darkrowan (http://www.videosift.com/member/darkrowan) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:20:01 -0700

Hey an idea just hit me for a better name than 'Dead Pool'. Stale Crumbs... whatdaya think?

By jonny

jonny (http://www.videosift.com/member/jonny) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:21:32 -0700

Regarding the queue, I thought the idea was to default order posts by the best vote to view ratio so that lesser watched vids go up front.

By joedirt

joedirt (http://www.videosift.com/member/joedirt) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:28:04 -0700

*sticky (By the way, you guys might have hosed your SEO..

i wonder if there wasn't a way to redirect the bots with a htaccess to rewrite/ send them to an old static version of 2.5

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:28:05 -0700

Stickying this post at the top of Sift Talk - sticky requested by joedirt.

By James Roe

James Roe (http://jamesroe.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:40:10 -0700

joe dirt,

these are requests for non charter user pages, bigger, email_this, and embed_this so i think that it should probably not affect our video seo. Some non charter members might see their page rank drop on user name searches but that should even out in a month or so.

By Fletch

Fletch (http://fletch.videosift.com) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:59:11 -0700

Looks really good.

One small thing I noticed is that expanding the comments under a video listing lowers a comments box that seems to be scaled for 1024. It would be nice if it was scaled for the wider 1600 I am using.

By BrknPhoenix

BrknPhoenix (http://www.videosift.com/member/BrknPhoenix) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:23:01 -0700

I hate to criticize, especially when someone that is with you guys did the work, but I honestly prefer just about everything from the old layout over this one. Sorry

It may or may not also be important to note... I'm not sure of your demographics, but many older individuals will not be able to use the site. I'm not an older individual myself, so it doesn't matter to me, just saying. As people get older, their ability to see the color blue decreases. I'm not an expert so I don't know how much, but judging by how extremely light the color of blue used widely in this layout is, I'd be willing to bet a lot of older people couldn't see any links at all.

By joedirt

joedirt (http://www.videosift.com/member/joedirt) — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:41:04 -0700

Crap.. VS is missing out on the older-people-who-cannot-see-blue demographic.

one would hope visually impaired people figured out how to use something like WebDeveloper extension to overwrite CSS values like "siftblue". At any rate, the color scheme is about the same as previous videosifts.

By rembar

rembar (http://www.videosift.com/member/rembar) — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:59:55 -0700

Lucky, you are insane. No joke. I am totally floored by the scale of the project you have just completed in such a short time. Hats off to you, and to Dag and James and all else involved in running VS.

The time for fine-tuning will come, but for now....wow.

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 01:05:08 -0700

We're actually specifically trying to weed out the older-people-who-cannot-see-blue demographic. It's part of our evil plan.

BrknPhoenix, I would urge you to give it a bit of time - believe it or not, there were Sifers urging us to go back to the 1.0 layout too. ;-) (tangerine orange and military green).

You're concerns are valid though - and the site will definitely change when enough people tell us there's something they don't like.

By winkler1

winkler1 (http://www.videosift.com/member/winkler1) — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:04:36 -0700

Looking good guys. One issue with the AJAX'y stuff: some things come up inline (show comments / expand video), but others don't. For instance, I was watching an expanded video and clicked New Comment, was surprised to have it navigate away (and lose my place).

Could there be some visual vocabulary to indicate which links will go to a new page, and better obey the Law of Least Astonishment?

By lucky760

lucky760 (http://lucky760.videosift.com) — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:39:09 -0700

>>One small thing I noticed is that expanding the comments under a video listing lowers a comments box that seems to be scaled for 1024. It would be nice if it was scaled for the wider 1600 I am using.

Very good observation. We'll definitely make it adjust with the page width. It'll happen soon.

>>Could there be some visual vocabulary to indicate which links will go to a new page, and better obey the Law of Least Astonishment?

Excellent point/suggestion, winkler1. We'll come up with something, like maybe that little box with an arrow pointing out of it or something..

>>Lucky, you are insane. No joke.

Thanks very much, rembar. People like you make it all worthwhile.

By ant

ant (http://www.videosift.com/member/ant) — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:43:05 -0700

I noticed older version felt faster in rendering in my SeaMonkey.

By sometimes

sometimes (http://www.videosift.com/member/sometimes) — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:13:32 -0700

nevermind, what was here has been moved to the http://www.videosift.com/talk/Bugs-in-v30 post.

By Goofball_Jones

Goofball_Jones (http://www.videosift.com/member/Goofball_Jones) — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:05:42 -0700

GREAT! Nice work and congratulations.

Now please go back to the old format. Thanks.

By Fedquip

Fedquip (http://fedquip.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:20:22 -0700

*Quality, the speed has improved incredibly since my last (attempted) visit

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:20:22 -0700

Awarding dag with one star point for this contribution to Sift Talk - declared quality by Fedquip.

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:26:08 -0700

If it has, it's due to the code ninja.

By pyrex

pyrex (http://www.videosift.com/member/pyrex) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:28:40 -0700

Yeah this is way better. Smooth sailing for now :-D

By silvercord

silvercord (http://silvercord.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:24:54 -0700

*quality

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:24:54 -0700

dag has already been awarded a star point for this post - ignoring quality request by silvercord.

By winkler1

winkler1 (http://www.videosift.com/member/winkler1) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:23:43 -0700

This is probably absurdly hard, but I'll ask anyway--

When I click the thumbnail of a vid, I expect it to start playing. Haven't used 3.0 much, doing real work, so I'm still adjusting.

Is there any way to tell the vids to start playing? Even if was just for YouTube vids, this would be really nice.

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:00:31 -0700

Yes, we're thinking we will probably make them autoplay when selected via thumb.

By looris

looris (http://www.videosift.com/member/looris) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:48:17 -0700

Overall Top Channels
The highest ranked channels overall as determined by votes cast by all members.

Fine. Where's complete rankings? Or, at least, how can I know how many votes and videos my channel has?

I also miss many collective-related functions, such as top collective posters, top collective videos, and so on (maybe there are but I couldn't find'em).

Moreover, in the "Channels Listed Alphabetically" the basic channels are missing. So, if one of them isn't listed in the top10, it isn't listed anywere in the channel page...

Finally, a grievous¹ question: Viral VS Commercial. I find many many commercial videos who aren't viral by any means. And I *do* mean many.
I guess more than half of the viral channel are actually commercials, due to the fact that the commercial channel wasn't there.
Should I simply add the *commercial channel, or am I also supposed to remove the viral one where I feel it's inappropriate? Can we have a simpler way of modifying channels? Either similar to the tags or playlists one, or anyway better than *nochannel *one *two *three *four *five invocation, that when channels are all-five is really a pain in the ass.

Anyway, gg, I'm really linking VS3

PS: so, looks like I was the only one besides JR to use "bigger" function, weren't we?

PS: rotfl@Goofball_Jones

¹ i don't actually know what grievous mean, that was a nice-sounding word and I decided to use it

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:48:17 -0700

Post is not associated with any channels - ignoring nochannel request by looris.

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:02:02 -0700

*unsticky

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:02:02 -0700

Unstickying this post from the top of Sift Talk - unsticky requested by dag.