Comments for "The Creepy Miseducation of Christian Youth" Video at VideoSift.com

By Zonbie

Zonbie (http://zonbie.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:09:56 -0700

God loves you very much and will be sad panda if you 'must' burn in the unquenchable flames of hell...

By kronosposeidon

kronosposeidon (http://kronosposeidon.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:31:58 -0700

*promote

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:31:58 -0700

Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Tuesday, April 29th, 2008 11:05am PDT - promote requested by kronosposeidon.

By lurgee

lurgee (http://www.videosift.com/member/lurgee) — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:36:19 -0700

Thank you Jebus!

=]

By EDD

EDD (http://www.videosift.com/member/EDD) — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:52:18 -0700

This is more fucked up than my roommate when he got back home last Friday night. Incidentally, that's Hella Fucked^TM.

By GreatBird

GreatBird (http://greatbird.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:07:25 -0700

It doesn't matter how much you take crazy and put it in a nice box and wrap it in a pretty bow, it's still CRAZY!

By Crosswords

Crosswords (http://www.videosift.com/member/Crosswords) — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:39:02 -0700

I think one of the biggest factors early on in my life for turning away from Christianity was the notion all you needed to do was believe in God and believe that Jesus was his son and that he died for our sins. When I was a young kid I identified as Christian, but my family wasn't practicing and I didn't go to church, though I occasionally prayed. Most of my friends were church goers, and of different denominations at that. I can't count the number of times I was told I was going to hell by them, not exactly something that sits well with a 6 year old. I also noticed how they'd say my friends of the other denominations were going to hell because they didn't believe 100% what the other friend did. Even at that age it struck me odd the someone could be an exemplary human being and still get sent to hell on, in my eyes, what was a technicality. I thought about all the other denominations, I thought about Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, (assorted) pagans and figured hell must be packed with basically good people. And why? because they failed to pick the right choice in a heavenly game of pick-the-right-box.

What was more, in many cases my friends basically thought whatever they did wasn't too big a deal so long as they were repentant, and thus were often cheats and lairs, yet among them I was deemed the dishonest one, not to say I never lied but comparatively I was a light weight.

I suppose this is what got the gears turning, it wasn't until I was a teenager I more or less counted myself an atheist, by then there were a lot more issues at stake, but the notion that accepting God and Jesus was (in most cases) 39/40ths of being considered a 'good moral' person still remains at the core of my rejection of religion.

All that said, I have known some great people who identify as Christians in my time, and had they been around when I was a kid I probably would have had a tougher time coming to my atheist conclusion.

By dystopianfuturetoday

dystopianfuturetoday (http://dft.videosift.com) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:48:30 -0700

The stork is an unusually apt analogy.

By gwiz665

gwiz665 (http://www.videosift.com/member/gwiz665) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:58:35 -0700

I'm upvoting this like I would upvote a Jackass video. Don't try this at home kids, that boy's a pro. He can sell shit to an anus.

By garmachi

garmachi (http://www.videosift.com/member/garmachi) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:09:02 -0700

Everything in the Bible has to be true because the Bible says so.

By Trancecoach

Trancecoach (http://www.videosift.com/member/Trancecoach) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:46:58 -0700

no one actually believes in the sun of god, do they?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-kvw1fYXs

By winkler1

winkler1 (http://www.videosift.com/member/winkler1) — Thu, 01 May 2008 07:12:32 -0700

awww such *cute* propoganda.

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Thu, 01 May 2008 07:12:33 -0700

Adding video to channels (Cute) - requested by winkler1.

By schmawy

schmawy (http://schmawy.videosift.com) — Thu, 01 May 2008 08:44:32 -0700

Jesus is cool. Can't stand the freakin' church, though.

By iwastheturkey

iwastheturkey (http://www.videosift.com/member/iwastheturkey) — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:19:38 -0700

I personally think this is a pretty tame "brainwashing" video. While this may screw with a kid's view of themselves, their worth, and their world, it didn't tell them to force their decision on others or to judge everyone else's sin, and, most importantly, it didn't tell them that not accepting the "gift" would end in punishment.

Truly creepy christain brainwashing uses "hell" constantly, which just scares kids into conformity and leaves little else for understanding... this one doesn't even mention it.

Really miseducating videos tell kids that science doesn't happen, that homosexuality is evil, that they must "fix" everybody else, and that anybody disagreeing with them (including themselves!) is "of Satan".

Brainwashing is hard to define, in fact a definition has never been agreed upon, but I feel like it involves forcing something, or using shame and disgust to coerce a belief. But, as creepy as it may be, this particular video actually just sums up the theology of Christianity (the religion) in it's simplest terms. It left most of the "christian" (the group of people who use the religion only when it profits them) opinions and brainwashing out.

While the "you deserve to die" part was a little much, I personally think this video is actually just trying to just encounter a kid with a theology. Whether that itself is a good idea is still debatable, but I at least have to give the creator a little credit for not forcing all the other crap on the kid too. Serisouly, a christain film that doesn't mention the fires of hell? that's rare...

By rottenseed

rottenseed (http://rottenseed.videosift.com) — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:30:36 -0700

I simply define brainwashing as the exploitation of an impressionable mind to influence that mind to disavow logic, reason and skepticism and to replace those mental exercises with blind, emotional faith.

By dbarry3

dbarry3 (http://www.videosift.com/member/dbarry3) — Thu, 01 May 2008 12:16:44 -0700

What if it's true? What if it's that simple?

By rottenseed

rottenseed (http://rottenseed.videosift.com) — Thu, 01 May 2008 12:59:58 -0700

The more we learn about the universe we live in, the more complicated we find it. Answers just bring more questions.

That "The simple explanations are probably the right explanations" mentality is awfully archaic and assuming. Religion had its purpose for explaining the unknown and keeping social order and giving hope to those that lived in a rough era. Religion still has a purpose to the person, those that need that crutch, but in these times, religion is restricting positive progress by short circuiting choice based on reason and redirect choices to be based on religion. It's the herd mentality that we must fear and shun.

Either way, it's all for naught, we live, we die, whatever happens afterwards can only be told by those that can no longer speak.

By therealblankman

therealblankman (http://www.videosift.com/member/therealblankman) — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:37:46 -0700

What a perfect video to watch on Ascension.

By moonsammy

moonsammy (http://www.videosift.com/member/moonsammy) — Thu, 01 May 2008 21:51:47 -0700

>> ^rottenseed:
That "The simple explanations are probably the right explanations" mentality is awfully archaic and assuming.

In the case of science vs religion though, it does give the edge to science. Let's take one of the big questions: how did this all get here? The universe either came from a physical process which we're growing to understand more and more as we develop better tools and tests, or an all-powerful, inscrutable, invisible supreme being magicked it all into existence. And, you know, made it look otherwise to test us or something.

Ok, that's a bit of a false dichotomy I suppose. Seems appropriate given how oversimplified the subject video is though. I don't think I'd go so far as to use the terrible tag (for the previously mentioned reasons of avoiding really inflammatory material), but creepy is apt.

Oh, and if I'm wrong and there really is an all-powerful being(s) waiting to judge us on whether we believe in him/her/it/them in spite of a complete lack of hard evidence, may they/it/her/him strike Siftbot dead. Nothing personal Sb.

By schmawy

schmawy (http://schmawy.videosift.com) — Fri, 02 May 2008 03:31:46 -0700

The wrath of Siftbot be upon you, Moonsammy! Repent and spend the rest of your days fixing deadpool vids in atonement and pray for redemption! Amen!

>> ^moonsammy:
>> ^rottenseed:
...may they/it/her/him strike Siftbot dead...