Comments for "Saltwater into fire" Video at VideoSift.com

By Constitutional_Patriot

Constitutional_Patriot (http://patriot.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 May 2007 16:55:41 -0700

Actually there have been similar inventions using the hydrogen power in water. Energy companies purchase these patents and files them with all the others that conflict with the ability for them to make a profit on existing energy sources. Since John stated that he would like to sell it, I think that we all know what will happen with this invention.

They can't buy them all up though...One inventer has claimed that he will never sell and he's made a car that runs off of water. A Saudi sheikh attempted to purchase it from him, but he refused. If more inventors follow this path, then the world could be on the verge of a free-engergy society someday near. The question exists... will the controllers of the energy market let that happen?

By westy

westy (http://www.videosift.com/member/westy) — Tue, 29 May 2007 19:05:49 -0700

how mutch energy is needed to power the radoe imitter?

By gluonium

gluonium (http://www.videosift.com/member/gluonium) — Tue, 29 May 2007 20:50:56 -0700

aaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! *comedy GOLD baby!

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Tue, 29 May 2007 20:50:58 -0700

Invocations (comedy) cannot be executed by gluonium because gluonium is not a Gold Star member - ignoring requests.

By jwray

jwray (http://jwray.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 May 2007 21:49:19 -0700

The laws of thermodynamics imply that their radio wave generator is using at least as much energy as the fire is producing. There's no way to reorganize saltwater into chemicals with higher total binding energy (unless a nuclear reaction occurs). He basically just invented a cool new method of electrolysis. It will only be useful for cars if he can separate and store the hydrogen & oxygen before they react.

The reporters in this video are ignorant like George Bush -- hydrogen from electrolysis is just an energy medium. The energy for electrolysis has to come from somewhere, typically the electrical power grid, which in the US is powered mostly by fossil fuels. Non fuel cell electric cars are satisfactory -- we need to work on more environmentally friendly ways of generating power for the grid.

By gorillaman

gorillaman (http://www.videosift.com/member/gorillaman) — Tue, 29 May 2007 21:56:55 -0700

Upvote for the 'true American innovator' line.

By jwray

jwray (http://jwray.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 May 2007 22:01:56 -0700

" Actually there have been similar inventions using the hydrogen power in water. Energy companies purchase these patents and files them with all the others that conflict with the ability for them to make a profit on existing energy sources. Since John stated that he would like to sell it, I think that we all know what will happen with this invention."

This is an unfortunate conflict of interests that ruins the intended purpose of patent law. Fortunately patents only last for 20 years. I think a patent holder who has no intention of commercializing the patent should release the patent to the public domain. Holding a patent for the sole purpose of preventing the production of disruptive technologies is unethical and should be illegal.

"They can't buy them all up though...One inventer has claimed that he will never sell and he's made a car that runs off of water. A Saudi sheikh attempted to purchase it from him, but he refused. If more inventors follow this path, then the world could be on the verge of a free-engergy society someday near. The question exists... will the controllers of the energy market let that happen?"

I'd like to see how this alleged "water-powered car" works. I doubt it.

By megafly

megafly (http://www.videosift.com/member/megafly) — Tue, 29 May 2007 22:06:16 -0700

I suppose he could have come up with a more energy efficient method of electrolysis, but that isn't what the report says. I cannot fathom how anybody could be so simple as to not ask about the energy input and output of the system.

By Constitutional_Patriot

Constitutional_Patriot (http://patriot.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 May 2007 22:13:25 -0700

jwray, here is a link to the video where I first learned of a water powered engine as well as a couple other sources.. The inventor (Stan Meyer) was murdered in 1998. I can't post it because I'm at my limit of postings for now.

Website:
http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html
Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+powered

This one actually was shown on FoX about water power as a source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8

By Clayton

Clayton (http://www.videosift.com/member/Clayton) — Tue, 29 May 2007 22:36:17 -0700

Constitutional_Patriot, that's been covered:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Equinox-It-Runs-On-Water-1995-documentary-on-free-energy#leavecomment

By Constitutional_Patriot

Constitutional_Patriot (http://patriot.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 May 2007 22:46:30 -0700

Ah ok, but watch the 2nd video (the 3rd hyperlink) as reported on FoX News... it shows another (recent) car that was modified as a hybrid and he's got a Govt. contract to work on hybridizing a bunch of Humvees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8

Also, here's another video about a motorbike that's supposedly been converted...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8573013059814306652&q=water+powered

By Memorare

Memorare (http://www.videosift.com/member/Memorare) — Tue, 29 May 2007 23:31:02 -0700

next up: the infinite improbability drive, fueled by a really hot cup of tea.

By Constitutional_Patriot

Constitutional_Patriot (http://patriot.videosift.com) — Tue, 29 May 2007 23:39:29 -0700

I found this as well..... GM created a hydrogen powerplant car. About 4 min. into it they show you the powerplant system.
I just posted it after paying for subscription here....
http://www.videosift.com/video/Top-Gear-Water-Powered-Car-made-by-General-Motors

By Constitutional_Patriot

Constitutional_Patriot (http://patriot.videosift.com) — Wed, 30 May 2007 00:16:27 -0700

Here is another inventor in the Phillipines that converted a car to use sea water. He states in this video that he was about to be funded by his government but there was a coup d'etat and there was an agreement with the IMF and the World Bank not to produce anything that would compete with them on energy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8346441546420435391&q=water+powered

By sirex

sirex (http://www.videosift.com/member/sirex) — Wed, 30 May 2007 05:25:53 -0700

erm.... so what the hell happens if someone goes down to the beach and fires that thing off ?

By jwray

jwray (http://jwray.videosift.com) — Wed, 30 May 2007 20:39:35 -0700

Constitutional_Patriot,

I watched both your videos. This guy has only invented a more efficient method of ordinary electrolysis, and he has miscalculated the energy input. Maybe he didn't account for the effects of induction. His suppression of the details is reason to suspect that he's a deliberate fraud. If he really cared about free energy for the world he would make the details public. When an academic discovers something they publish all the details quickly and that proves they were the first to invent it. Distrust anybody who refuses to show you all the details of a so-called "demonstration". Keeping it secret won't protect his invention. It would just make it easier for people to steal his invention or prevent it from reaching the market by killing him. So this guy is either an idiot or a fraud.

From his own website:
" The egas (Hydrogen/Oxygen or Hydroxy Gas or electrolysis gas) produced acts like a catalysis to your fuel. Get higher octane combustion. Utilizing oxy-hydrogen gas to boost a fossil fuel with a complete burn of all the hydrocarbons, produes a way cleaner emmission. In fact so clean you will not pass the SMOG test. (disconnect it when at the SMOG test.) Best of all you will be driving with cleaner emissions! You can easily make one yourself. Hydro-boosters will work with any ICE engine, diesel too. Actually combusts better with diesel! Small lawnmower engines too. Any size engine."

The directive to disconnect it at the smog test is bullshit, intended to hide its lack of effect, IMO. He just wants to make money from selling the parts.

By Constitutional_Patriot

Constitutional_Patriot (http://patriot.videosift.com) — Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:57:10 -0700

Yes, I agree with you. Logically there is no cutoff floor limit to a smog test I would think. So, yes he must be a fraud to say this.

By eric3579

eric3579 (http://eric3579.videosift.com) — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:10:36 -0700

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siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:10:36 -0700

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